cfujskins Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 will be $92 million. He said this on today's (Saturday's) CBS pregame show and he sounded pretty sure of himself ( even saying "This just in, the salary cap for 2006 will be $92 million). I was thinking, "how in the hell does he know?", but..... Anyways, any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsunami001 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 last week it was announced that it would be between 92 and 95 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin101 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Is this good or bad for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 Is this good or bad for us. hmmm....Im gonna go with bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 hmmm....Im gonna go with bad. Why, this is awesome for us. This will allow us to keep Lavar, give him the offseason to get healthy. It will also allow us to get Reggie Wayne and possibly two defensive ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Why, this is awesome for us. This will allow us to keep Lavar, give him the offseason to get healthy. It will also allow us to get Reggie Wayne and possibly two defensive ends. now, i cant really tell, but I hope your being sarcastic with this. this screws us for next year. People have said thatwe will be near 30 million in the hole going into the offseason. We mightbe loosing a lot of high profiled redskins at the end of this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1SkinsFan Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 now, i cant really tell, but I hope your being sarcastic with this.this screws us for next year. People have said thatwe will be near 30 million in the hole going into the offseason. We might be loosing a lot of high profiled redskins at the end of this year no we wont because of how many of the "high profiled" skins have long term deals. There are only a few people that have one year left, and we have the cap to resign them. The oly problem is that we might not be able to get many key free agents, but we will be able to keep LaVar. I can see us getting at least one solid cheap WR, and another solid cheap DE that will b able to help our team. The rest of our needs we will to pick up in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 no we wont because of how many of the "high profiled" skins have long term deals. There are only a few people that have one year left, and we have the cap to resign them. The oly problem is that we might not be able to get many key free agents, but we will be able to keep LaVar. I can see us getting at least one solid cheap WR, and another solid cheap DE that will b able to help our team. The rest of our needs we will to pick up in the draft. I'm not sure you've got a firm grasp on the salary cap -- all of our players, no matter what their contract length, count against the cap. Lavar's 10 million dollar hit next season doesn't "count less" or something because he's under long-term contract. However someone posted very pleasing cap numbers, I think it was MrMadd...which suggested the Skins were not in cap trouble after all...:whoknows: I am definitely not a cap expert... I found MrMadd's analysis; very thorough. If Dan Snyder knows anything, its how to finagle and massage the cap numbers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 no we wont because of how many of the "high profiled" skins have long term deals. There are only a few people that have one year left, and we have the cap to resign them. The oly problem is that we might not be able to get many key free agents, but we will be able to keep LaVar. I can see us getting at least one solid cheap WR, and another solid cheap DE that will b able to help our team. The rest of our needs we will to pick up in the draft. well,i dont know if i know exactly what you mean, but, i think that you might have the NBA salary cap system and the NFL cap system mixed up. in the NBA, you can be over the cap 30 million, and not be in trouble, because they also have the hard cap. but in the NFL, there is no hard cap, so, you have to be under the given salary cap by the start of TC... i might be wrong in interpruting what your thinking, but this is what i got from what i read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 What was the cap this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpickering Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Edited... Disregard my post due to MRMADD's explanation. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121901&highlight=2006+Salary+Cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 now, i cant really tell, but I hope your being sarcastic with this.this screws us for next year. People have said thatwe will be near 30 million in the hole going into the offseason. We mightbe loosing a lot of high profiled redskins at the end of this year Any comments on MRMADD's analysis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Any comments on MRMADD's analysis? i cant say that I have looked at his post prior to what I wrote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 The Skins will have to make some adjustments cap wise. People always talk about Lavar's cap #. I had no problem with the Skins giving Lavar big money at the time of his sigining because he was the Skins property and he performed well for the Skins. The Skins Cap problems are what they are because they always over compensate for other team's players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 i cant say that I have looked at his post prior to what I wrote Here is an exerpt from his post: Total cap costs for top 15 players in 2006: $60.6 million Total cap costs for other 29 players (projected) in 2006: $20 million Existing dead money: $3.5 million (Barrow, Morton, McCants) Projected dead money: $2.5 million (Ramse, Noble, Hall, Tupa) Projected rookie pool (est. 7 players, no first round): $2 million Cap cushion (mid-season additions, etc.): $1 million Total projected Skins cap in 2006: $89.6 million Over/under: $400K UNDER http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121901&highlight=2006+Salary+Cap You should really read the rest of his analysis as well. Might change you gloomy outlook on our cap situation a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Here is an exerpt from his post:Total cap costs for top 15 players in 2006: $60.6 million Total cap costs for other 29 players (projected) in 2006: $20 million Existing dead money: $3.5 million (Barrow, Morton, McCants) Projected dead money: $2.5 million (Ramse, Noble, Hall, Tupa) Projected rookie pool (est. 7 players, no first round): $2 million Cap cushion (mid-season additions, etc.): $1 million Total projected Skins cap in 2006: $89.6 million Over/under: $400K UNDER http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121901&highlight=2006+Salary+Cap You should really read the rest of his analysis as well. Might change you gloomy outlook on our cap situation a little. Is this including the bonuses we have to pay?? If so, sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Fence Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I dont know about MRMADD's numbers, If he is right that is great, but i have read in many places, not just one, that both lavar and samuels have cap numbers in excess 10 mil, lavar at 12 to 13 mil, because of the reciprocity of these multiple sources i find it hard to discredit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I dont know about MRMADD's numbers, If he is right that is great, but i have read in many places, not just one, that both lavar and samuels have cap numbers in excess 10 mil, lavar at 12 to 13 mil, because of the reciprocity of these multiple sources i find it hard to discredit So I guess you didn't bother to actually read his post??? I haven't done the research myself, or bothered to check MRMADD's sources, so I don't know for a fact if his numbers are correct either. However, he clearly adresses your issue in his post. Another exerpt to help you out: A little explanation is in order. You’ll see on many sites, for example, that Marcus Washington counts as $5.2 million against the cap in 2006. Not true. Washington gets a $1.5m salary, his prorated signing bonus counts as $1.167m, and he’s due a $2.5m bonus in the offseason. Total: $5.2 m. But the $2.5m bonus can be prorated, making his cap cost in 2006 equal $3.3m, not $5.2. Same for Arrington: you’ll see the media say that his cap cost in 2006 is $12m, but it’s really $7m once you prorate the $6.5m roster bonus over four years. Did you know that there are 13 players due offseason bonuses for a combined total of $30m? Many of these (“guaranteed” bonuses, unlike offseason workout bonuses, for example) can be reduced from a cap standpoint. For this exercise, I’ve calculated the cap hit of all 13 guys if their offseason bonuses are prorated over 4 years instead of accelerated into 2006. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121901&highlight=2006+Salary+Cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Town Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 How could a higher cap number hurt a team owned by Snyder? 92 million is only going to help us out, what is the cap # this year, 74-76 million, I have no idea? I only see the 92 million figure helping us out. But I am not a capologist or anything, I only play one on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-O-G Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I guess this is good for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 How could a higher cap number hurt a team owned by Snyder? 92 million is only going to help us out, what is the cap # this year, 74-76 million, I have no idea? I only see the 92 million figure helping us out. But I am not a capologist or anything, I only play one on TV They only rationale is that they were hoping it would be higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightForOldDC21 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 i hope this is good for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatal Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Why, this is awesome for us. This will allow us to keep Lavar, give him the offseason to get healthy. It will also allow us to get Reggie Wayne and possibly two defensive ends. Lavar is gone dude. Face it. He BLOWS ASS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 The cap is currently $85M. We are approximately $115M for 2006 but there is no need to panic. We can shave about $30M w/o a blink. The following guys will be cut or traded: Raymer $1.119M Ramsey $2.882M Noble $2.630M Harris $2.750M Hall $1.430M Bowen $2.40M Wynn $3.453M This totals about $16.67 but there are some small bonuses that will be recaptured such as Wynn's restructure which will amount to about a $1M. So let's say that saves $14M. With the cap going to $92M we are ($115M-$14M) or at about $101M. Then Danny will get creative; e.g.; Samuels has a hit of $10.2M next year and only about $8M per year for the next five years. Bingo, we give him a $750k salary in 2006 and restructure and pay his balance of salary in new bonus money; i.e., ($10.2M-750k) or a $9.45M bonus and spread it over the contract for a hit of $1.57M per year. This would make his total hit for next year to be $2.325M instead of $10.2M for a savings of another $7.8M without him giving up a dime. There are five other players with good lengths in their contracts which Danny can do the same thing with. Every year the cap goes up significantly which reduces the risk. We could easily be $15M under the $92M without much work and that's w/o touching LA which I believe will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunellSuperbowl Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 does it matter? as long as they dont have a GM they will be a team thats fan base is tickled pink with7-6 with the highest pay roll and complaining about a play here or there every yr or they would be 12 -1 its been a play here or there for the past 12 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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