budski Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I know this guy hasnt played a down, so forth and so on, but could he be the Pierce of 2005 for us? If not a starter on the defense but on special teams and filler on situations on defense? You never know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I think Holdman is the likely candidate if Barrow is forced to retire. Holdman combines experience and previous time under Greg Blache in Chicago with decent size at 6'1 and 235-240 to play inside. I think McCune is too raw to be counted on in 2005 as a regular. Although I think he could turn out to be a real player for us on special teams right away. Marshall I see as too small at 6'0 and 227 to be an effective inside player. The other guy on the roster I want to see in camp and the preseason is Clifton Smith. The guy is 6'0 and 253 and has decent quickness and athleticism. He seemed close to catching on here in 2003 before a late injury in camp put him out of the picture. It will be interesting to see what he has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by budski I know this guy hasnt played a down, so forth and so on... So then why do you bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooooley Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 He will be a beast on special teams. He will bust that wedge and bounce around out there like a man possessed. Can't wait tilll that opening kickoff!:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 KevinB. Because until last year Pierce was really not known very well, either, except for special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stricknine Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 The thing about McCune is that one of his weaknesses coming out of college was supposedly his football intelligence. Now Pierce was supposed to be one of the smartest football players these coaches and fellow players had seen. Plus Pierce had 4 years of experience. McCune is a rookie. I think it more likely that this guys incredible physical tools and willingness to do the dirty work make him an excellent special teamer right off the bat..Down the road a couple of years, he may turn into that great MLB we are hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 I know williams defense is more complicated than this, but it always seemed last year the MLB toughest call was how many guys to send on the blitz. Sure am glad smoot is not here for that, did he ever get a sack when he blitzed? When springs came you could almost count on it, and smoot was from the blind side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerpSkin Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I agree with bulldog on this one... I have high hopes for Clifton Smith. People forget about him because of the injury, but he was looking good a couple years ago in preseason and apparently was pretty impressive in camp last season. But Holdman is your best bet... I would even say he is in a pretty nice situation to potentially be in contention for comeback player of the year honors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by budski KevinB. Because until last year Pierce was really not known very well, either, except for special teams. Just bustin your chops Budski! :dribble: ooooohhh McCune! :dribble: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Don't think so maybe next year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCnDaHouse Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 He could, but how soon is the question. MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 It's gonna be Holdman for now. Marshall is the next bet there. McCune will be kept for special teams. Im not sure if Clifton Smith will make the roster, even though I was hoping he'd be the starter of the future. They wont cut Holdman or Marshall, McCune cause he was a draft pick, Smith is sorta the odd one out even with his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 unless he wins the job in camp none of the players mentioned at linebacker have long-term contracts with high dollar bonuses. Smith could come in and win the job (yes an outside bet) and the Skins would still have Holdman as a top reserve off the bench for any of the three spots. With both Holdman and Marshall on the bench the Redskins would have a pretty deep linebacking corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Wouldn't mind if the guy actually played some first before speculating and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by bulldog I think Holdman is the likely candidate if Barrow is forced to retire. Holdman combines experience and previous time under Greg Blache in Chicago with decent size at 6'1 and 235-240 to play inside. I think McCune is too raw to be counted on in 2005 as a regular. Although I think he could turn out to be a real player for us on special teams right away. Marshall I see as too small at 6'0 and 227 to be an effective inside player. The other guy on the roster I want to see in camp and the preseason is Clifton Smith. The guy is 6'0 and 253 and has decent quickness and athleticism. He seemed close to catching on here in 2003 before a late injury in camp put him out of the picture. It will be interesting to see what he has to offer. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 From all the info on the other LBs, I dont think we will miss Pierce that much. Besides if this guy was so smart and such a key to this defense how come he didnt go to probowl? It would be wonderful for him to struggle at the Giants and skins to have a better record than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 He could be, however Pierce was a Redskin (ST/backup) for a couple of years until fate gave him a shot.....Mccune is 26 and hopefully will be a potential starter by the next year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 We haven't even seen McCune play yet, I'm not ready to deem him the next breakout player on this team. The only reason this is even a question is because people are stuck on his physical appearance. For the moment it's going to be Holdman as our MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncevensen Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 McCune is the backup this year. Next year he may be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Originally posted by Stricknine The thing about McCune is that one of his weaknesses coming out of college was supposedly his football intelligence. Now Pierce was supposed to be one of the smartest football players these coaches and fellow players had seen. Plus Pierce had 4 years of experience. McCune is a rookie. I think it more likely that this guys incredible physical tools and willingness to do the dirty work make him an excellent special teamer right off the bat..Down the road a couple of years, he may turn into that great MLB we are hoping for. A lot of what was said about Pierce was true, and a lot of it was hype. If he was that d@mned smart I'm hoping they would have retained him. What has been most obvious to me about McCune is people tend to want to discount him and he continually proves them wrong. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Anyone heard anything recent on Barrow's health? He's the wild card here. If he's healthy and on our roster, he's starting at MLB. Period. This discussion is really only relevant if he's not able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Well I don't think anyone here is realistically planning on seeing Barrow on the field at all next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobiemiles Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 He got a shot. If he is as mature as they say he is, then he can command the huddle, which is the real reason I will miss Pierce. I thought the biggest asset Pierce had was his command of the huddle. McCune may be able to do it. He's been through a lot in life, he seems mature, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 OMG MCCUNE IS GONNA BE SO AWESOME!!! HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIZE OF HIS MUSCLES?!?!? HES GONNA KILL SOMEBODY!!! :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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