FootballZombie

I'm not giving four for anyone. You can offer me Mahomes and I wont take that deal. Injuries happen. I'd give 3 for Watson tho. RG3 Deal that dude.

With the reveal of the Jets, I now have serious doubts that the two teams, NY and MIA, are the preferred destinations, but rather the two teams that could be leaked to apply the most pressure on Hou to do what he wants. With his no trade clause, Watson can basically choose his next team, and I find it very odd that hushed murmurs are floating the idea that the two teams with the most resources to get him are the desired locations for the player. the chances that the stars align like that are slim. I think Watson knows exactly what he is doing, having his people float the ideas of plausible destinations from a trade ammo standpoint to send warning shots to his own front office. Not saying he would not play in those places, though I have serious doubts about the jets, but I think the release of those teams is very strategic.

Uhhhhh.... did you mean Sweat? if curl and a pick can get me a QB dude is a ghost

I think Stafford ends up in Indy. They need him even more than we do and that will be reflected in the price they are willing to pay. A.) The Colts have like the second most available FA money this year. That don't mean much without a QB tho as they will get shunned. Especially by WRs. The only way to pick up a QB before FA is via trade. If they want to make an impact via FA, they have to make a move. B.) There will not be a lot of impact QBs made available via trade. You have Stafford, maybe Watson, maybe Wentz if he demands it and Nobody wants Jimmy Gs deal. Indy has no chance getting a in-div QB like Watson, so their choices are limited. I believe DET has Chase Daniels on their roster, but he is getting pretty old. They dont really have much in the way of a fall back plan so they need to mash the accelerator on this. I wonder how this effects Hou/Phi brass? Unless they believe they can retain their players, you are about to lose a QB suitor.

good test for our new FO

I don't think its a coincidence in that this comes out a day after the Texans re-interview two coaches he probably does not want. Watson is sending out warning shots.

Same boat for me Darby faced way more heat with teams clearly choosing to go his direction. He responded very well and only posted a few poor performances even though he had a much higher degree of difficulty. Darby had a good, if not great year. That being said, you can bring in another corner for a fraction of his price (give someone else coming off a down year the same contract Darby is coming off) and there is a decent chance you can replicate Darby's results w/ our D. Every season you can have a 3M player giving you 8-9M returns. If the team is in any kind of financial crunch, due to re-signing our own guys or adding FAs, Darby is the first guy I let walk. I'd choose Scheriff, and KPL over him

Not anyone... I don't think people on here want Darnold or some of these other guys... just acknowledging the terrifying possibility. Same can be said for picking up Cam in FA. The pathway exists, whether people want it or not. A lot of these would be hard to swallow (Zombie pun)

I'd imagine that any coach not named Eric would be a negative for Watson. The fact that they are going to repeat interviews (they phased them as continued discussions) may be a warning sign that a few of the candidates either dropped out or raised their price as a a result of the unrest. interesting development

Nope Dallas would have to eat Dak's G money as dead cap (which they can not afford as it would easily be 50-60 M) and Hou can not afford a 40 M QB as they are already over the cap. If they want Watson they would have to stop talking contract with Dak and start talking trades with Hou with what they currently have. Not gonna happen tho, after last season, Dak has more leverage on his team than Watson has on Houston. They HAVE to bring him back. Jerry has admitted as such

Nice job by Fowler to cover his own tail. -Including a blub like that on a purely Watson article can only be visualized in one way. -waits to let everyone run around like chickens and get him more pub -hedge his bets so he is right either way played the game well on that one

I think Dak's chances of hitting FA are even lower than Watson's chances of getting traded. That dude is going nowhere. Just a matter of when Dallas decides to cave

He was not picked up off of waivers so we get squat. He will get a new contract from Pitt

Don't worry too much about that scenario Zero percent chance Philly can get in on this w/ Wentz The Eagles are already way over the Cap, trading Wentz would result in a 33 M dead cap hit on phil. W/ the additional 10 M from watson's deal, Philly would be 60M over the cap. Even after the trade, Wentz would cost 15 M for the Texans and they already have to trade JJ Watts 17 M to get back in the black. Bringing in a 15M QB puts them back at square one, from a cap standpoint. Neither side can really afford to make this move. Hurts would be a better fit for Hou, as his Cap hit would be tiny, but Phi would be trading Hurts 1.5M deal for Watson 10M would again put them 60M over the cap. Phi will likely have to sell high on a few of their players, but they have to bring in smaller contracts or draft picks in return. By no means are they in a position to buy. Hou can not afford to bring in a QB that cost much more than 10 M. If they do, they will have to slash up their roster far worse than just shipping off JJ Watt. If a player/QB costs more than 10 M, I would seriously doubt that player is even on Hou's radar to get in a return deal. That would rule out players like Collins and J. Allen on our team. Hou would want guys who are on rookie deals, or economically friendly deals, Like Io, Settle, Payne ect. ATL would eat a 45 M dead cap hit to trade that dude. You'd be basically punting on the season and giving away 1/4 of your cap to trade him before June 1 If he gets moved, it will be after June 1, well after FA and the draft, so most spots will be filled, giving them much less leverage and return.

Hard Pass The second you see MIA shopping Tua, you know MIA is going after another QB. That would tank Tua's value. Even without that, Tua has not been very good, and has yet to play a full season so I still have many of the same injury concerns. He is not worth a 1st rounder on that front either. A 2, I'll think about it. No way on earth I'm giving up a 1 for him at this stage. Tua is not a QB that can take advantage of this roster and win games right now

I'm seriously going to need a couple of y'all to up your Roy scores with this display of timidness. Start living dangerously. We LITERALLY had a guy beat cancer. You can't go back to the carpet store. tear up your SS cards people!

Wentz would be an astronomical 34 M dead cap hit on Phi to trade him and 60 M to cut him pre June 1 They would save less than 1M by trading him. Phi already has to shed a metric ton of money. I'm pretty sure you have to be under the Cap on the first day of the league year, so there is no way they can use Wentz to dig out of that hole. I'm usually a brain man, but their struggle will be especially delicious.

While you cant just call up a player and start getting into deets (that would be tampering) you can speak through a proxy of the owning team. If you are trading for a guy and you have to give him a new deal, I'd image 90% of the contract details are already worked out and you'd just need to hammer out some minor details. There have been numerous situations where guys have had no idea they were even being shopped, let alone traded, but that is a rare occurrence at the QB position. Getting help in FA at any position, and especially WR, would require some form of wooing. Your going to have to sell the guy on your vision, and their personal role in it. They have their choice of destination and are not handcuffed by having to get traded. I don't see us getting any of the better WR options without upgrading the QB position either. The good thing about trading for a QB, is that it would likely go down before FA begins. That will allow us to hit the ground running and go after our preferred WR targets, filling some major holes on this roster.

That would be true of any trade, but asking a guy if he is willing to play for another team, and stacking your roster to woo a player are two different things. On that note, I'd seriously doubt a vet QB on a rebuilding team would turn down an offer to join a playoff team. We don't have to be the most appealing place on the market, just more appealing then his current situation. By all means, we already are so I don't think we would need to add a single player to our roster to get a guy like Stafford.

Don't have to woo Stafford with squat. He is not a FA so he would only be available via trade, and I don't believe he has a no trade clause. They have a new head coach and Front Office so they don't personally owe him anything. I don't see them eating a 19M cap hit just to be cool and let him hit FA and choose his next team. They will try to move him for something, if at all. This situation would be more like normal NFL trades. It would be less about where he wants to go and more about the most appealing offer to Det.

Yeah, I'd consider a QB that has played more than 5 Qtrs of ball since 2018 and has actually been in the NFL a better plan. Don't have to give draft picks to get that, there is a guy already basically on the roster and there are numerous FA options. Honestly given the opportunity between Kyle and Taylor, I'd be pretty confident in Kyle's ability to win the competition, but he presents many of the same issues as Taylor. Rolling w/ our current QB situation may be low cost but it is not low risk. You'll likely have severe difficulty bringing in any high end talent in FA. (especially on O where you would not be able to tell them who they will be catching passes from or protecting ala A. Cooper) Its also easier on the coaches to build a complete offensive plan if they know before hand what person and skillset will be running it. There is an immortal saying that if you have 2 QBs, you don't have 1. The same goes for someone with 0 QBs. If you have to go into camp and hold a QB battle to determine who starts, than in the previous offseason you don't have a QB. That is where we are right now. We have some cheap fallback plans, but we don't have an undisputed guy. The path forward is certainly debatable, whether to spend some assets, just use FA or just roll with what we got, but what is not at all debateable is that we don't at this moment have a QB1 since we are so likely to move on from Smith. We have some guys that may compete to be one. We have some guys that we hope may become one. We don't have one however.

Its a very good comparison. Its a lesson on the importance of sample size. The question is not whether or not whether you let Taylor compete, its ensuring that you don't put all your eggs in an unreliable basket. A Taylor/Allen/X camp battle is still an option on the table, just not a primary or even secondary one. No NFL club will bang the table to rollout that kind of QB room. It would be one of the worst in the NFL. If we can't make any other moves at the QB position, than the camp battle is certainly our fall back plan, as we can very easily have both Allen and Taylor on the roster next year, but any front office in the league would be doing the rational thing by looking to upgrade at the QB spot to do everything in their power to avoid that outcome.

Not so much a lack in belief as it is not falling in love with a microscopic sample size on a player who was not even in the NFL for a while. Not saying he shouldn't be allowed to compete for the job, but an Allen/Taylor/X competition next year should be like option G. Matt Flynn's happen, and falling in love with them is a cardinal NFL sin

I see you've been reading my posts ^^

No thanks on Ingram. I don't desire a 30 anything at RB, and I would not pay someone 5 mil to replace Barber. We need someone who can bellcow a bit, so Gibson does not have to. Barber's role is simply short yardage.... and hes honestly kind of a stud at it. He just gives you nothing as a bellcow. A 5th or 6th rounder would get the job done.