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I hear Shohei Ohtani knows a guy

I won't link the vid b/c it delves into some non-stadium topics, but Rich Eisen was talking to RG3 about the top QBs Rich straight up asks Griff about RG3 phobia from the Washington fanbase when specifically looking at JD. Cliffnotes -Griff thanked him for asking b/c a lot of people were afraid to. -Said that he himself has heard often that there are fans in washington scared of JD because he reminds them of himself -He said the first thing to focus on is that JD is better than he was coming outta college "point-blank period" -Followed with all the QBs in this draft class are athletic. Its the new prototype for NFL QBs. They all extend plays, they all put themselves in harms way at times. -Dont use what happened to himself against JD -Was confident Wash fans would want another 2012 -Just enjoy what is in front of you -Guys are always gonna get hurt, cant stop it even w/ all the new rules. Referenced Burrow directly.

I think that Scout D account is run by Maye's agent lol. That dude has been in the weeds this whole cycle. Hes a good and respectable fighter/football player, but he can't go super sayian so he's virtually useless against big-bads/winning championships. Boom

That's a question better suited for someone who studied him. I watched zero film on the guy to know if he meets the baseline. I don't even know what the "JJ" stands for.

I think your on the right track, at least for QB. Being great requires such high level thinking. You could have the best bod in the world but that only gets you so far in the NFL. Uber physical traits are still great and desired, but only if they come with other intangibles as well. Your not taking an Anthony Richardson when a CJ Stroud or Bryce Young is available, only in their absence. Now every other position? U can get the big dumb guy and turn out OK if he is a physical specimen. Gronk Smash

If that is a sizable boon in Minns favor I'll prob change my prediction. They might just get the ammo to godfather NE.

1 Chi/Caleb 2 Wash/Daniels 3 NE/Maye 4 Ariz/Harrison 5 Minn/JJ

I smashed this same basic argument when we acquired Wentz. Dude was coming off a great QBR year but it is a virtually worthless metric when directly comparing QBs. They are all asked to do drastically different things. I don't care that Lamar had a great QBR, he could barely complete passes at the college level. He never had a season w/ more than 60% completion percentage. That is absurdly terrible. Lamar was a poor passer coming out of college. Great player. Had the potential for great impact, but a poor passer. Full stop. Any other determination is particularly laughable. End of the day, if you think you have an argument that a dude who was barely a first rounder and taken QB5 is the same level of prospect as a dude who is very likely going in the tippy top of the draft and scouts have rated higher than the better half of recent #1s then you need to re-evaluate your scouting method and stop incorporating what he has done once he entered the league. Lamar was not an elite prospect, or he would have been treated like one. He became one of the NFLs best players.

I've said it more than once, I luv the potential coach fit of both KK and Johnson(Philly). The schemes they have run, the players they have been around, tried to recruit and coached... Yes plz. Couldn't ask for a better hodgepodge of young and talented QB collection than Mahomie, Hurts, Murray, Caleb, Baker and even Keenum(all time college passer leader) and Manziel(heisman pose). If I was making a short list of NFL offensive coaches that I would want to pair with JD directly, there are not a lot of others that I would prefer. Gimmie.

Lamar was not a good passer coming outta college. That is why he dropped to the end of the first. He was an absolute project coming into the NFL that practically every team passed on. The chances a guy like that work out was an absolute moonshot. In the league he has seen abnormal and unnatural growths in passing metics, ones that are only rivaled by Josh Allen. People jump to Lamar b/c we have so few examples of guys who's running ability is that electric, but I maintain he's a terrible comp for JD is so many ways. JD is a polished passer, who has shown far more development as a thrower of the ball. Your not drafting him and praying to the football gods that he could develop into a decent passer like was done w/ Lamar.

We would have a rookie QB under contract for 5 years. 6 or 7 if you include tags. How many head coaches in the NFL will still be employed w/ their same team in that timeframe? 15%? Being afraid a guy might jump ship to his former coach is not a valid reason to pick someone else. There is an exceedingly high likelihood that the opportunity is never even available.

I feel bad for whoever is slated to go to New England. If anybody needs to "pull an Eli" it is whatever QB is on the board at pick #3. Almost throwing your career away. They have nothing to support a QB with.

Time to check in on my boy "Da Slide Coach"... annnnnnd he's trying to get clearance for what he calls "necessary equipment"

It really seems that the league sees JD as a guy who would go #1 in a lot of other drafts and has a clear separation between him and Maye, which is a far cry from where we were just a couple months ago. The further we go, the more people basically find this same conclusion. Its hard to ignore that kind of banter. It only takes one team to love you, but with so many football people being of this mindset, I buy the lean towards Jayden and I buy it hard. Even more lucky year to have the no 2 pick this year than I first thought. Even my original take on JD was not this lofty, I just had him at blue chip. Getting a guy who would go #1 in other years at #2 is an absolute blessing. We were due some good juju.

In regards to that large tweet chain: A.) If the situation is as that dude described where you are testing your lead dude, there are only two ways things can go down. You either learn enough negatives about your leading candidate to move on to someone else, or you keep with your main guy but you have already sewn the seeds of mistrust before the relationship even starts. Heck of a dangerous game and you gotta wonder before you start if the juice is even worth the squeeze. It only really pays off if you vacate your lead guy. I don't buy that it developed like that. That feels almost silly. B.) I thought the information about agents getting pissed if anyone ever tries that again was funny. Agree w/ that one. Don't get to play around at the top of the draft like that, especially w/ QBs.

Holliday struggles continuing. Bases loaded, full count, takes a fastball dead center. rough. Were up 4-0 tho.

Disturbing lack of adhesiveness to your projectile yeeting armament. You can't thrash a dude in epic novella fashion then moonwalk it back 2 weeks later. jk

They release the votes for that award. Maye got a few votes, but he was 10th overall and like QB7. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/heisman-2022.html

Whoa, total nonsensical fur is flying. I'm here for it. We eatin' good today

I'm prepared. got my goggles n everything

I buy the leans and the constant stream of NFL guys seeming to have these guys on separate tiers. Too much smoke. When Keim and Schefter gauge the football world and the results are not close my ears perk. I think it will be JD.

Hey now, its always a great time to go to munch-ville... as to which I mean snacks. I find myself just grabbing a handful of things that are less than good for me and catching up w/ the various surges in the thread. Even binge a few of the posted vids. Good times. That being said I am like getting alarmingly more chill getting closer and closer to draft day. You'd think it would be the opposite. Honestly its a bit concerning. Need a little stress to get the heart racing. Spice up life a bit. Maybe I just feel good about the position we are in. Who knows.