El Mexican

I have never seen a team less inclined to run the damn ball. Just 76 yards today.

This is supposed to be the easiest play in football and we just can't get any sort of running game going. It's pathetic.

Seems EB is one of those Xbox Madden fan boys that just insists on winning with 40+ passes every game

even if he knows his method is just wrong and completely unbalanced.

1 hour ago, CapsSkins said:

Oh, and one more thing - CHANGE THE DAMN NAME.

 

The Commies represent nothing more than the death throes of Dan Snyder's ownership and Rivera's losing culture.  

I agree man, worst decision in franchise history.

Rivera and the entire FO should be fired for neglecting the O-Line this offseason.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, agreed this was a problem last season.

Only TH's weird antics saved face when it collapsed around him on every snap.

These guys couldn't protect a bingo caller in an elderly home.

43 minutes ago, skins island connection said:

Not to be obvious but I thought the Comms record WAS 3-3...

For some reason Howell is starting to remind me of Rex Grossman. Good arm but makes throws that makes people scratch their heads. Lets hope the walls at Met Life are padded well!

This game has all the makings of a 'trap game' for both teams { sans the records } and the Giants' strength right now is the Comms weakness, so i'm expecting to see Tyrod to move out of the pocket alot to escape pressure.

One thing IS certain; if the Giants score more than 27 then they should put DelTaco next to Hoffa and be done with him; fire him immediately after the game.

This could be a Saquon Barkley coming out party.

He's had a very quiet season but looked good vs the Bills. So maybe he has a breakout game against us.

Dude is drowned in trade rumors and he'll be a FA agent at the end of the season. 

The perfect stage to bust 100+ yards by gashing our D with an average of 9 yards per carry.

Jones is not the one to worry about, IMO.
 

On 10/16/2023 at 10:44 AM, Califan007 The Constipated said:

Daniel Jones has been dreadful this year. Hasn't thrown a TD in over a month. Three out of his 5 starts he threw for 137 yards or less. Howell can keep up with his production. I'd rather we face him than Taylor.

You just know he'll have 4TD and 300+ yard passing game against us AND find a way to beat us with his legs.

2 hours ago, MrJL said:

 

Teams can protect players an unlimited number of time even if they can only elevate them two or three times,  And this doesn't do much for us, since we're barred from signing anyone from the Giants PS this week.

It must do something. At 34 sacks allowed we're on pace for a historically bad season. 

We're talking about a 100+ sack season, something I would never have even dreamed of seeing here given The Hogs importance.

11 hours ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said:

I mean it didn’t work today for them but I was at their game last week in LA and they churned that game out with plenty of passes late. 

And they'll win other games mainly bc of their really good passing game. Eagles are for real.

In no way shape or form are we close to them regarding the passing game.

21 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Running to milk the clock because you have a lead.. doesn't always work as often as fans clamor for it. Short of dominance at the LOS its tough sledding out there especially when the offense stops doing the only thing that had been working.  The short WCO pass is like a run.

Only it isn't. Too risky. Eagles demonstrated that today.

Our version of the WCO is primitive and leaves the running game as an afterthought.

This is a mistake since we don't have the personell to pull it of. We ain't The Greatest Show on Turf by a nautical mile.

Weird game. Key points.

- Their QB is terrible. Thank goodness they didn't substitute for Heine. 

- Good to see old man Crowder still making plays.

- This is just the type of scenario you focus on the running game. We can't establish it. That's a huge concern at this juncture.

- Oh, and they sacked our QB five times. So again, we are at the bottom of the league in sacks allowed at 34. Still in sight of that 100+ sacks allowed in a  season!

6 hours ago, NoVaSkins21 said:

This coaching is totally @ss.  I want to let things to play out for themselves and let things play out and let Rivera' and Co.'s poor record speak for itself and it will be cause alone for their firing.

Let's just accept the fact that Ron's biggest W here was defeating cancer.

In comparison, everything else must be for him pretty trivial.

Save for a lucky break in the strangest season ever due to the flu (and finding a very un-orthodox QB that surprised everyone in the League in another) his coaching has been subpar.

Time to move on.

4 minutes ago, PeterMP said:

 

Not really.  He was a special teams player.  He rarely started a game and never caught more than 30 passes a year after leaving here.  Not all good for a 4th overall pick that somebody traded up to get.

Oh I agree, but he shined in that SB they won and just for that he should be commended.

3 minutes ago, PeterMP said:

Desmond Howard?  We even traded up to get him.

He had a very respectable career after he left DC.

I was actually glad he had a big SB game with Green Bay, so that kinda aliviated my dissapointment.

5 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

The guy has been the most disappointing player of my time as a fan.  Chase Young was trending in that direction, but might have gotten his head screwed on and his knee right just in time.  

Really? I'd easily put Heath Shuler, Josh Doctson, or Carlos Rogers before Lavar.

At least we owe him that legendary and clean tackle on Aikman.

We all know TH will beat us somehow.

Score is irrelevant.

17 hours ago, FootballZombie said:

Totally normal. Nothin to see here.

 

 

It's rapidly becoming the "new normal" here.

Hope ya'll are ready for a 100+ sack season (record is 104 for PHI in the 80s)

10 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

Would you be in favor of this or against it?

 

For me, if braintrust determined this was the best path; I’ll be all for it.

Can't see what's the problem by cleaning house?

They need to trade the players that have any value at all to fill huge gaps on the team, starting with our O-line.

Terry and some guys in the D-line should be traded ASAP.

1 hour ago, Forehead said:

 

No, it looks like the high water mark (probably the peak Pourdanesh year) was 1998 with 61 sacks allowed.

...

Thanks for the nostalgia trip, friend.

So basically we're staring at the second-worst O-line in a generation.

I don't know if Howell will make it past midseason

8 hours ago, Forehead said:

I'm going to go with the late 90's with Pourdanesh and such create-a-players as Bob Dahl, Joe Patton, and Brad Badger.

Were they competing for a 100+ sack season?

4 hours ago, 757SeanTaylor21 said:

Because kdawg came out flat,

 

Studs

 

None

 

Duds

 

😩😩😩 - entire coaching staff and entire team

😩😩- entire defense

😩 entire team

Our offense looks primitive and our D made a very bad team look like SB contenders.

It was night and day between us and them.

That or Fields and DJ are the next Stafford-Megatron combo. That was just and insane performance.

13 hours ago, redskinss said:

But like Witt said earlier, you're looking at it through way too small of a lense.

We put up 30 on a good defense with a line that everybody said would terrorize us.

A lot of the sacks we're giving up now are a product of learning the offense we're trying to install.

 

I'll take 5 sacks and 30 points against the eagles every Sunday and I wouldn't even hesitate. 

 

Guess you¡ll have to take 5 sacks every game on average, given EB's distaste for the running game. 

14 hours ago, KDawg said:

I’m one of the biggest OL detractors on this forum but this is far from the worst line this franchise has had. In fact, it may not be the worst in the League (though it’s low in the ranking list).

 

Recency bias creeps in to most discussions. This one is no different.

It's DEAD LAST in sacks allowed, bro.

Oh, and we allowed another 5 sacks in tonight's loss to Chicago.

So that's 29 sacks allowed thus far. We're going for 100 plus sacks this season. What?!

23 hours ago, NickyJ said:

Close, 36.

Damn

9 hours ago, clskinsfan said:

Plus Lachey and Jacoby before them. This franchise was blessed with a rock solid LT for decades. And as far as ops question. This isnt even the worst line in the league right now.  You should go watch the Giants game from Monday night. 

Giants are actually second-to-last in sacks allowed with 23.

On 10/3/2023 at 8:11 PM, redskinss said:

Strange thread to start after they played a pretty decent game.

After the bills game it would have made more sense.

I suspect our line will continue to improve as a combination of multiple things occurs.

One, Howell continues to grow and learn to move up in the pocket and get the ball out quicker.

Two, the offense as a whole gets more comfortable with a brand new system.

And three, God willing they stay healthy.

 

Patrick mahomes takes sacks at a high rate and he's widely considered the best quarterback in the game with one of if not the best offenses.

It stands to reason that we'd take sacks at an even more alarming rate trying to install the same offense with a lesser quarterback and lesser offensive line.

 

Right now it certainly looks bad especially when you just look at raw numbers but it'll get better, I can say this for almost certain I doubt any offense in the history of the league has ever or will ever again put up 89 points in 4 games having taken 25 sacks, that almost seems impossible. 

 

 

We still allowed 5 sacks vs. the Eagles.

That's pretty bad by any standard.

14 hours ago, NickyJ said:

You guys have such short term memory. This isn't nearly as bad as when we had Turk Edwards, Les Olsson, Larry Siemering, Eddie Kahn, and Victor Carroll.

 

You thought Kory Lichtensteiger was undersized for a guard? No chance. Larry Siemering was as undersized as you can get. A whole 206 pounds of center, dude got eaten for lunch. Nick Martin could bench press him with 2 arms tied behind his back. Good guy, but not cut out for the NFL. He's been out of the league for years now.

 

Eddie Kahn had fight in him, but he never

What year was this? 1946?

13 hours ago, RFK Lives said:

Patrick Ramsey remembers a pretty bad line, well, actually, no he doesn't remember much.

That line is looking like an A+ compared to what we're doing now.

Ramsey was a victim of his idiotic Gator coach. That man should have never assumed an NFL job.

But EB was supposed to be the best OC in the league and we get this?

I saw with my own two eyes the '91 Hogs allow a TOTAL of 9 sacks ALL season.

And that was with Rypien at QB who was possibly our least mobile QB ever.

I clearly remember our stellar O-Line play from the 80s.

Never have I seen this franchise ranking at the bottom of the League with 24 sacks allowed this early in any season. 

That's unacceptable. I know Howell tends to hold the ball for too long bc he likes long and medium routes, but that can't be the only reason for this free-fall.

Until we straighten this issue we don't have a chance in hell at the playoffs.

Not with Dallas and Philly on our calendar two times a season.

Can someone please explain what the coaches are seeing to allow this to continue?