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Yeah, the 800k was wrong to begin with. To add to that, we’re in mid July and closing on 140k COVID deaths, and that’s not counting the excess pneumonia deaths we can’t explain. And I’d be willing to bet money we’ll easily top 200k covid deaths this year. if I found a way to prevent 200k heart disease deaths in the us annually, I’d be on the short list for a Nobel prize. But I’m supposed to believe that the same number of covid deaths is media hysteria.

I googled it and couldn’t find it. Please educate me/us with an actual source. Edit: also please remember when you educate us that having a heart attack isn’t the same as dying from it. Also, heart disease includes other forms of death, and the number I could find even for that was 640k annually, which is 20% off your number in the best case.

where did you get the 800k number?

Good point. Given recent history, it’ll only be worse tomorrow

I get the increased testing angle, but when you factor in the “excess deaths,” from pneumonia in nearly every state, we’ve failed on a massive scale. Some of the survivors will potentially live with weakened respiratory systems for the rest of their lives (from what my doctor friends tell me). We don’t know yet.

Is anyone blown away (in a bad way) that it’s July 13, were four months into this mess and basically setting records for new cases daily?

Seriously, when this is all done, nobody is going to judge anyone for holding their kid back a year. In Texas people do it just so their kid can maybe play high school football. What'll be a ton harder is things like the socialization that children needs with other kids for their social/emotional development and the age old American childcare problem (where do we stow them away once we start having to go back into the office?)

I don't know which COVID 19 thread the right one for this article, but this is shocking. We're on the verge of something really bad. CNBC: 32 percent of US Households missed their July housing payments https://www.cnbc.com./2020/07/08/32-percent-of-us-households-missed-their-july-housing-payments.html

I read a post on another board that this is happening at the same time the trump administration pushes to reopen all schools in the fall. They know this will force the hand of universities to open up. Once again, Trump is using immigrants as hostages in a purely political ploy. He wants open schools as a backdrop to claiming victory over COVID.

As much as I want to socially ostracize those sickos, @dfitzo53 is spot on. I think some random grad student in Arkansas started getting death threats after the Charlottesville hate march.

When my dad moved to the US in the 70s, the plan was to come here for grad school, find a job and eventually become a citizen. It was all legal and it’s exactly what conservatives point to as “moving here the right way.” His plan should things not work out (eg he couldn’t get a work visa for whatever reason, or got stalled on the path to green card), was to keep enough money to fly back to India. That was it- he didn’t have extra money sitting around to fly home for Christmas or spring break. A policy like this would’ve ended his American dream on the spot. Yes, he could save up enough to try again but that is not at all realistic. The people getting punished are the ones republicans keeping touting as “the good ones.” They created their own opportunities and went through all the legal pre-screening required to try at the American dream. A lot of media coverage of this focuses on the quality of internet in other countries, but they fail to mention that the financial and personal toll of relocating to another country alone can keep them from ever coming back. None of this helps us in our incompetent fight against COVID. The cruelty is the point. The good news for people like my dad is that Canada is eager to welcome people like my dad who will contribute to the tax base.

I think you’re right honestly. NASCAR had a hipster honeymoon ~15 years ago but since then it’s ratings have basically halved. They know there’s far more to gain by taking a stand than there is to lose here. What’s funny is that this entire cancel culture is basically the republican playbook from 15 years ago. Just go look up how gay marriage was discussed leading up to the ‘04 election, or what Bill OReilly did to professor Ward Churchill and Ludacris/Pepsi in 2005.

Very old prank call to a NASCAR fan (linked and not embedded because it gets really NSFW and really racist) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxi1J2EntVU

A few years ago I went on a ski trip with a bunch of randoms— it was one of those trips where everyone just extended an invitation to an extra friend so it ended up being like 15 people but none of us really knew more than 2-3 others. Anyways one night at dinner, one of the guys said some things that were vaguely anti-vaxxer (not a full-on conspiracy but a comment like, “you really don’t know what’s in all those vaccines.”). It turned out one of the other guys on the trip worked in R&D for a pharma company and another woman worked for the cdc in Atlanta. The ensuing beat down was glorious. I actually felt bad for the first guy- I think he was making conversation but unwittingly hit a nerve. also, I have a low opinion of pharmaceutical execs, but I firmly believe that the scientists that go to work there are truly in it to help people.

Today I learned Bob Seger and Kurt Loder (from MTV news a la the mid-1990s) were born 1 day apart.

I’ll assume that question was intended for me— I used thin brick, which is specifically intended for applications like this. You have to mortar them individually and mount them to the drywall. They mortar sets “just enough,” within a few minutes and fully sets after 24-48 hours. The biggest mistake everyone (including me) makes is that they move too fast and the bricks start sliding off the wall. I had a minor panic attack when that happened. after the brick is set, you go back and fill the gaps with grout. of everything involved (electrical, woodwork, patching drywall, painting, etc.) the brick was the longest weekend.

just trying to help the economy man 😂

Gonna take a second to humblebrag what I’ve been doing this quarantine... Here’s one before and two after shots.

Yet you're still a Redskins fan... 🤨

agree 100% here. Trump just strikes me like a lot of corporate executives who get in over their heads with something. They cling to anything that shows some hope thats simple enough for them to understand. He’s oversimplified something that’s just not simple. This is right up there with his, “who knew healthcare could be so complicated?” comment from earlier in his term. its entirely possible that this drug works on 90% of patients, but until we know how quantify that, and then identify and exclude the other 10% of people, we could be putting even more lives at risk with this drug.

I feel like I'm in a bizarro version of college at the moment. Back in the day, if there wasn't anything going on, a bunch of friends would head off to the bars after their afternoon class on a random Tuesday. Now its the same thing, but we're all calling into a teleconference to drink "together" and unwind for a bit.

OK full review of the Bears-Redskins game from October 6, 1991: - Art Monk with 2 TD catches 😍 - Kurt Gouveia with an INT; I never get tired of hearing that - Its interesting some of the names playing in that game and how their futures unfolded, namely: Jim Harbaugh, Matt Millen, Ron Rivera - Speaking of Jim Harbaugh, he went 17/41 and made his classic "Harbaugh-face," regularly after each incompletion (if you're a Big Ten football fan, you know exactly what I'm talking about) - John Madden, OMG; my favorites: 1) "That guy just came like the last shot out of a roman candle" (hehe) 2) His long diatribe about proper placement of laces when kicking a field goal (after Lohmiller's second FG); I had to remind myself this was pre-Ace Ventura 3) His love affair for Matt Millen... WOW; "Every team needs a guy like Matt Millen," "It's wrong he's wearing number 57, he deserves a real number like 50, 51, or 52." - "Tonight on 60 minutes... firebrand radio host Rush Limbaugh" Yeesh, and so it begins...

Currently watching the Redskins-Bears game from 1991 on YouTube while I catch up on some work stuff. That was the one game I didn't get to watch that season and I've been wanting to watch it for a while. The Redskins poked two eyes out in the first quarter and they speared a Bears player (helmet to helmet) lying on the ground after a punt return. There's literally unsportsmanlike conduct (by current rules) on every play. Skins are up 3-0 early in the 2nd quarter. I'll let you guys know how it turns out. HTTR

I was trying to explain the situation to someone earlier today. The only parallel I could come up with was my summer job in 1999 doing Y2K testing for a NASA contractor. They literally tested every little utility they use, and ran test data through ground servers to make sure it would get processed correctly and sent back up to satellites with the right 4-digit year format so there would be no interruption in everything for which we rely on satellites. And things definitely failed in testing. When Y2K happened it was pretty underwhelming and I got the stray comments from random people that it was all a bunch of precaution over nothing. This is similar, a bunch of experts have looked at the data regarding how quickly/easily COVID-19 spreads, how quickly symptoms show up and how easily it kills, and they're sounding the alarm. I know when its all said and done, people will wrongly compare this to the flu, but they'll never make the right connection regarding how much this might've killed had we treated it like the flu.