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I'm just having flashbacks to 2019 with all of this. We have a QB on the roster right now, who some think could actually start for this team, as we did back in 2019 prior to any free ageny moves or trades. https://larrybrownsports.com/football/colt-mccoy-could-enter-2019-redskins-starting-qb/486219 Then they traded for a slightly better journeyman than the one already on the roster. This is what most local guys are saying now: it's most likely going to be Trubisky or Mariota. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26174723/sources-broncos-trading-keenum-redskins The local guys start to hype up a boom or bust project. Local guys are all in on the Malik Willis train right now. Standig, Finlay, Keim, etc. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/26388916/tracing-roots-dwayne-haskins-football-journey We draft said project, in the 3rd year of a 5 year coaching tenure. The slightly better journeyman actually sucks just as much or more than the guy we had on the roster, so we are forced to play the rookie. Rookie does some nice things towards the end of the season to justify sticking with him. Then 2020 happens. I pray this isn't the scenario but it's giving me flashbacks.

The more I think about it, the more Sam Howell is emerging as a dark horse candidate for one that they will draft. WFT scouts were at the UNC/Pitt game back in November, as well as the UNC/Wake Forest game a week prior. The Pickett/Willis talk will all be moot if the Panthers and Falcons take them respectively. That leaves us with maybe drafting a WR at #11 and hoping that Howell is there in the second round. I doubt it will do much for fan excitement, but I would not be upset with this.

We should totally trade 3 firsts, 3 seconds, and Chase Young for Deshaun Watson.

Yep. It's the same thing that happened with Haskins and the opposite with Herbert. Haskins was deemed a year 1 starter, and Herbert was "will become a good starter in a year or two". Couldn't have been further from the truth.

I disagree. He is that dumb.

Yep. Which leaves us with Corral, Strong, Howell, or Ridder. And I remember when team scouts were at the UNC/Pitt game last November. http://dcsportsking.com/2021/11/11/wft-scouts-at-showdown-between-kenny-pickett-and-sam-howell/

I think social media is really underestimating the backlash this team would get if they traded for Watson. Even without criminal charges. 20+ women with very similar stories.

Forgot about the Falcons picking before us. I could see the Panthers taking Pickett, and then the Falcons taking Willis. Which would leave us to pick Corral. Who is my #2 in the draft. But I have not heard any "noise" from the local guys with regards to Corral to the Commanders. I've heard it about Pickett, Willis, and Ridder. And Ridder just is "meh" to me.

That's a no from me on both fronts. It's too much to give up for Watson (reportedly), and I don't think the Raiders move on from Carr to a team that offers them nothing in return at the position. The hypothetical 49ers trade makes much more sense for the Raiders. There's also this with regards to Wentz:

They pick before us.

Lol. Like I said. It's really bizarre to see these posts over and over again.

Yes, you draft the guy most NFL ready who is not a project. Rivera is entering year 3, not 1.

IMO, drafting a QB at 11 gives him the remainder of his contract. Pickett is the most NFL ready QB. His first 4 years scare me, but I think he's the best of the bunch.

When we picked, there really weren't any quarterbacks worth taking. Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Mitch Trubisky, and Jameis Winston were all available last year...and they picked Fitzpatrick.

Ron's first year, IMO, gets a pass because of Snyder essentially handcuffing him to Haskins. But signing 38 year old Ryan Fitzpatrick to be your starter in year two without a potential starter waiting in the wings?! He has this year to fix that, but to me, that is unforgivable.

Going back to the 2012 season, here are the quarterbacks who started in the Super Bowl: Joe Flacco - Colin Kaepernick Russell Wilson - Peyton Manning Tom Brady - Russell Wilson Cam Newton - Peyton Manning Tom Brady - Matt Ryan Nick Foles - Tom Brady Tom Brady - Jared Goff Jimmy Garoppolo - Patrick Mahomes Patrick Mahomes - Tom Brady Matt Stafford - Joe Burrow There are outliers among them, but it's pretty consistent that you need an elite quarterback to even sniff the Super Bowl. Are there any potential elite quarterbacks in the draft? Doubtful. But they have to draft one to find out, IMO.

Don't know if this was posted already or not, but this is interesting. At least you can admit it. That's the final stage of grief. And my notifications took me back a few pages where the randos who are convinced Heinicke is a starter showed up, followed on cue, by you to shout them down. Horseshoe theory in full effect.

And...here you are...taking the bait again to bizarrely show your disdain for Heinicke at the mere mention of him. I'm not trying to "revive" any "argument". Pages and pages have him being brought up and people, such as yourself, entering the chat to remind everyone how much he sucks and isn't an NFL starter. We get it. He's not a starter. But he's not Mike Glennon.

I don't agree with the "we are instand Super Bowl contenders with Watson" takes. For one, our defense was quite terrible last season. Two, he has won the same amount of playoff wins as Kirk Cousins. Go check his rosters out during his first 3 seasons. And when O'Brien gutted the roster? 4-12. Elite quarterbacks are supposed to elevate terrible teams. He is not elite. We're divisional favorites with him, and maybe a playoff win with him. And it's not worth giving up all of that draft capital for a team trying to distance itself from the sexual assault and harassment allegations.

This is debatable. Especially with people salivating at the prospect of Trubisky or Mariota.

This is "The QB Thread"...which includes the backup solution...of which we haven't had a reliable one since 2012.

There is a very bizarre desire to defend or trash Taylor Heinicke. I don't get it. We have one of the best backups in the league. This should be celebrated, but bizarrely it's turned into a debate about how great or how terrible he is.

He played against UNC in a downpour in November. I literally linked the game highlights.

It's not as if he played in a city with notorious crappy weather conditions in the fall.

Mike Vick was a 8.5. Burrow was 9. It's meaningless in terms of how good a quarterback can play.