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Just now, KDawg said:

Raiders look better under Stidham than they have under Carr. But part of that is Stidham’s familiarity factor with McDaniels offense. Similar to Heinicke.

Which is even more of a reason why I don't want Carr next year.  Logan Pauslsen made a similar observation on Sheehan's podcast.  Carr struggles in a new offense.  While I do think Carr is a better leader and is mentally tougher than Wentz, I still think this will be more of the same with Carr next year.  

3 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

I mean, heinicke wasn’t doing himself any favors with the turnovers the past few weeks……what did he expect the coach to do, continue playing him as we fail to put up more than 20 points and he fumbles the ball deep on our side of the field? 

Yeah they should have went to the guy who produced 3 turnovers and 10 points instead in the middle of a playoff push.

Just now, KDawg said:

Damn. He’s sitting right on Rivera like he’s a chair?

This is a good visual.  

Just now, justice98 said:

 

At some point, I can see Heinicke wanting to take his chances elsewhere.  He's established enough of a market for himself in the league that he doesn't have to keep hanging around here.  

I don't think he'll be anything more than a backup quarterback elsewhere, but I hope he leaves this dumpster fire of an organization.  They benched him for that?  I'd want out immediately.

1 hour ago, Birdlives said:

No one will ever convince me that Wentz wasn’t Snyder’s idea. The pattern of behavior is far to significant to prove otherwise.

No one will ever convince me that the decision to go back to Wentz wasn't Snyder's idea.  There is no way in hell these coaches watched this over a full week and thought, "yeah, he's the guy".  This was a Snyder move 101.  Which makes perfect sense for the season to go "down the Heinie hole" after "the return of Wentz".

Do you think Heinicke's sister has a spot on her couch for Wentz?  

6 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Also feels fitting in our constant QB hell situation to come out of the season with a maybe answer versus a solid yes or solid no. 

It would be the most Washington thing ever to have the owner's guy lose the next game but play well, have the Lions and Packers both win, and then play Howell in a meaningless game against backups and also look good opening the door for a "who should be the starter in 2023" debate all offseason.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/12/28/carson-wentz-commanders-quarterback/

5 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

He typically throws in the 20s.  Wentz was throwing 40 times game after game after game.

Wentz is 5-2 in his career when he's thrown the ball 22 times or less in a game.  

8 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

That would go against everything he’s said publicly about what he wants from his next opportunity.

This was brought up on the McAfee show yesterday.  Apparently he liked this tweet.  Payton can chose anywhere he wants to go, but the Chargers made the playoffs so I don't see a coaching change there.  Same with Dallas.  

2 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

Are the Colts even an attractive destination at this point?

If they were to land someone like Sean Payton they would be.

Heinicke is going to be the backup if healthy.  

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Sound like if they lose, howell starts the last game. 

This is the way.

In case anyone didn't trust notorious content stealer Dov Kleiman.

6 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I'm starting to think you don't watch football at all and definitely saw zero snaps of the Eagles game. Games tied 34-34. Minshew pick. 34-37 Cowboys. Eagles driving at the end. Redzone pick on a horrible pass. Minshew. 

You are just making things up at this point.  The Eagles had Dallas on a 3rd and 30 with 8 minutes to go up by seven and they gave up that deep bomb to TY Hilton which led to 7 to tie the game.  Then Gardner Minshew threw a bad pick which resulted in a 37-34 Cowboys score.  Then Gardner Minshew handed the ball off to Sanders who fumbled the ball back to Dallas.  But yes, that was all on Minshew.

1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said:

I could have sworn the Colts blamed him the collapse of their season and traded him away, after using a first for him, from a team that dumped him after giving him a monster contract.

Wentz was seen as the scapegoat for an impulsive owner who was bitter that they missed the playoffs because of the final game of the season.  People were touting his QBR last year and his stats from that season.  Good, but not great.

2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

If you can't over take Taylor Heinicke and Caron Wentz on the depth chart? No.

We're talking about next season, not this season.  

3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Stat wise in general Carr matches his reputation which is good albiet not great. 

Which...is what Wentz's reputation was prior to coming here.  

Wentz career stats:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WentCa00.htm#2016-2022-sum:passing

Carr career stats:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CarrDe02.htm#2014-2022-sum:passing

1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said:

Did you watch the game?

Yes, he was a reason they lost but "definitely" not the reason.

4 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

he's definitely why the Eagles lost.

Gardner Minshew was responsible for Ceedee Lamb averaging 12 yards per reception?  13.4 for Dallas Schultz?  Interesting

2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

That's a terrible idea.

So suddenly the time isn't Howell?!  

Just now, Skinsinparadise said:

How are they stylitically similar though?   Just saying they are doesn't answer the question.  

I said statistically they are similar.  Stylistically, not really.  I do think Carr is more mobile and not a head case like Wentz.  But he's never overly impressed me in any way.  

Just now, Koolblue13 said:

Carr is a starter, Minshew is a back up. I'd prefer that QB room to Wentz and Heini.

Minshew coming here is under the presumption that he would be in a competition with Howell and another QB via the draft.  

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Watching Carr what reminds you of Wentz stlylistically?

Carr doesn't have the arm that Wentz has, but yes, statistically they are very similar.  Carr puts up more yards and less touchdowns than Wentz does on average, however.  

8 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Anti Carr, Pro Minshew.   

Anti-retread, pro non-splashy QB move.  

17 hours ago, Zim489 said:

I couldnt hate a move more than trading for Carr. Its the same move we have done for 2 decades. 

Derek Carr is Carson Wentz with eyeliner.  I do think Carr is a better leader, but don't expect any different results with him.  Malik Willis looks legitimately terrible so it would shock me if the Titans were to move on from Tannehill.  I'm still 100% behind Minshew.