Thinking Skins

I was just looking back at the Chicago game and I didn't care what people say that was a good game after we started the comeback. It's just something to realize that we're not a good team. I just thought they Sam was a good QB and loved seeing him play. Anyway, I was going to say that one thing that I'm not seeing that I was seeing early in the season is the pass interference calls to Terry. Sam would see a matchup and take a shot. Either he's not doing to any more or not getting the calls or they're being caught. Just a thought. N

So again, I'm on Twitter talking to Elkabong82 about this coaching staff stuff and decided to do some research on our DB coach

Yeah we do that but he barely looks at the TV

C'mon they wouldn't let us enjoy Thanksgiving like that. They'll keep it close. And Mount a comeback and have us thinking they'll pull it off. I'm thinking something like 35-31 We've had the Howell GWD to lead us to overtime (Eagles1) We've had the Howell GTD to lead us to overtime but the defense folds(Seattle) We've had the 2 Giants drives where we had a drop and an int (and before the int a drop on a pass that could have take Brown deep in their territory) We've had the Howell sack fumble kill the comeback(Eagles2) We've had the missed FG and the next play a deep ball kill the comeback (Chicago) I'm guessing that we show we can hang with them and it's not a beat down. Then something different from all these things above happens. Wouldn't surprise me if we looked great on offense but horrible on defense. And the talk is Dak vs Sam.

Well I'm not good with names. I kept wanting to search for Thom whatever who is always on with Kevin Sheehan. And with no name search is useless.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2023/11/22/23971746/offensive-coordinators-matt-canada-ken-dorsey-todd-monken-eric-bieniemy Three OCs have already been fired this season, and offense is down across the board. But being good at this job requires a lot more than just play-calling and what fans see on the field on Sundays. In the world of offensive coordinators, you either get hired as a head coach, or you stay an OC long enough to see yourself become the villain. Just look at Ken Dorsey. Dorsey was hired by Buffalo in 2019 to become the Bills quarterbacks coach. He was charged with overseeing Josh Allen’s development, and within a year, he helped Allen become an MVP candidate. That work earned Dorsey a promotion to offensive coordinator in 2022, and that season, the Bills offense improved in every major statistical category despite a tough schedule and a midseason injury to Allen’s throwing arm. Not a bad four years of work for an NFL assistant. Click on the link above up read more (it's been a long LONG time since I've posted an article. I hope I did this right)

So my latest sinister plan to teach my 4 year old to read is doing word searches. All the typical stuff has failed because he's lost interest or he just says, no dad you read it to me. It my wife will say stop rushing him and he's age appropriate, which is right. But I like reading with my boys. And I want them to be able read back to me. So tonight he's doing this word search book I got him. I can't say if it will stick. But hopefully it'll be some word recognition because with the cards we weren't getting past 3 letter words.

I'm not crying for Ron. I'm sad cause we can't get a good thing for our players. DG is has to volunteer his services because he sees that guys aren't getting the coaching they need. That's not my crying for Ron that's my wanting to win games. We have the wrong assistant coaches. And we have them because nobody wants to coach here.

Well, I don't care about Ben Johnson. I want EB right now. I want him to be able to get assistant coaches. The stink is hard to get rid of. There's an old quote I use in my marriage list goes "trust is built in drops and lost in buckets". We just need a good young defensive coordinator this year under EB with some experienced assistant coaches. I'd like to keep some for cohesion. I want Harris to focus on what he was doing last year, continuing to improve things. The stadium, the parking, driving, the showers, the next one, etc.

@ConnI hear you and I am not crediting Ron with it, but I do think the culture is stressing him. Not necessarily the culture but the ramifications of it. Like he was in the press conference and talking and he said "Anybody who thinks this has been easy to hell with them" Is he taking about just the cancer? Just the covid? Is Dan interfering more than we know? We can we see that he couldn't get anyone in FA But more and more I'm thinking about the talking he's having with the coaches. This is a good dude. We hear it over and over from the media. He probably talks to everyone he knows about working here and to a man they probably say "Ron I love you but I would die before I work in that dump." And that probably makes him question why he ever took the money. It probably made Jay question why he took the money cause he couldn't find coaches. I thought it was ego but they are coaching for their jobs and their lives, they would hire a lot of people but those people wouldn't come here. And the ones that would are the ones that we didn't need.

Yeah. I agree. I think that needs to be his focus. And I think @skinsinparadise had a good point about not wanting to seem trigger happy to potential GMs because this is the foundation for the next 30 years he's building. It could be same ol same ol or something new and better.

This was one of the first replies of the day, just talking about JDR's scheme. This is where I am. I see it so much now. Its not just that the scheme is complex. Its not just that JDR is a bad teacher, Maybe he is maybe he isn't, but 25 years of incompetence has led to a team of coaches where nobody in the NFL wants to come here. Its a hard nock lifs. This is the conversation I've been having on twitter (I think with elkabong82 and others who used to be (maybe still is) on here). But basically since there is nobody other than the Juan Castillo with experience running a defense, who can take over we are left in a vacuum. That's the Snyder culture we're talking about where nobody wanted to work here. I also wonder if we have some good (possibly great) young coaches just starting out here but we need that veteran presence too. We can't have coaches freaking out too because its their first time coaching a blowout. I need to know you've been through the fire. (This was in reply to Lynnell Willingham) Look at the coaching page. Its not just a Ron problem. We have a coahcing problem. People didn't want to come here to this area unless it's to play a game. Not even to interview. EB will be a nice headline, but this problem is deep rooted and needs more time to fix.

I know, but part of me thinks he may want to get a TE "in his system" so they can franchise him for that reason.

Man, I'm thinking about Shen and I get a bad vibe from that video. Given it's only one video but the fact that he points out TE scares me. I hope he doesn't draft a TE in the (first round of the) draft. We could get a LT or a WR or an edge. Basically I'd like to go anywhere in the draft that would be expensive to go in FA and it's good player available at our position.

I think the owners liking Sam is good news cause it gives us insight into the talks he'd be having with the GM. Owner would be involved in finding a QB - not solely, but involved, and definitely invilved in having talks about the contract he would offer Sam after next year. So these are the types of things that he would need to think about with a GM because of things like the type of hits Sam is taking and things like concussions, head injuries, neck injuries I fear those a lot more than the old fashioned career enders like leg brakers and ACLs. But because he is so physical and is used like a punching bag (maybe refs will protect him more as he develops) but he needs to slide more, not learn to slide more but just acutally choose to slide more. So the question will be will the juice be worth the squeeze. Will we be signing him to a Kyler Murray contract in 2 years and see him injured and see our team still only hovering at 7-8 wins every year (at best). If thats the case, thats a bad scenario.

Thought this was relevant Dag, I spent all that time searching through my twitter timeline looking for this video I saw this morning and you had already posted it

The thing that frustrated me about EB. He let go of the OL coach when we knew we had a hole there. I want a coach who will do what Kyle did and bring people together to serve argue him down, not just agree with him. I fear that Commanders Park is just an agreement park right now.

Taking off my pro Howell, pro EB hat here far a second and thinking about things historically. I'm thinking about Nick Foles. He started off hot on Philly under Chip Kelly and Andy Reid had a stretch of 3 hundred yards games. Had a 27-2 TD-Int ratio. That looked like he was it. On top of that the locker room loved him. Then Philly traded him to STL. And drafted Wentz. His career has not been that good sense then so they made the right decision other that resigning him as a backup and him getting a ring and MVP. But I wonder how much of Foles's success was because of Kelly or the systems of Reid or Peterson or moreso Philly. And then I wonder if that could apply to Howell. We saw Carr do poorly in McVay's system and great in Johnson's. I worry about Howell for this.

I'm so out of the draft talk. I gave this stuff up years ago when it got to be frstrating to watch Snyder pic Haskins (I think thats the last year I looked) over Sweat. I still supported him but all my metrics said he wouldn't be the guy. And supposedly he was in the background after that but i was done believing because we had heard the same thing before. Now I just have less time so I can't build draft profiles and excel spredsheets like I used to. But I can run some of my old models and some of my analytics / heuristics that I know in my mind and use them to look at some of the prospects and see if I would take them. Right now though I'm glad we don't have to take a QB (at least I think we don't) because that's a roller coaster ride. These guys are so hard to predict. Even with the loss yesterday and the pic six to seal it, i thought Sam showed a lot of grit. Both TDs were totally or partialy on him. We got the ball to our own 47 and fumbled, to our own 34 and fumbled, and to their 35 and fumbled. Then to their 38 and the ball was intercepted. And we STILL almost won. Its very hard to digest, especially when you realize that those 6 points win the game. but when you look at the bigger picture and say that 4 of the 6 turnovers were by the young guys, and the other 2 probably wont be here next year.

Ben Johnson went to UNC. So from what I hear they talk. I'm not in that circle so I don't know how often. There are photos of them together, but the only ones I've seen are at the Senior Bowl. That makes sense because otherwise it might make it look like they were doing something like recruting or whatever its called in the pros.

Thats a possibility. Then it becomes a thing of Harrison (who I'd want) vs trying to get Fashanu or Alt to sure up our OL later in the top 10 and another top WR.

I doubt he falls there though. I think he's going 3.

If we go top 4 I pray we get a top LT or trade down

I agree with all of this. I think that as far as analyzing things the local media is really lacking. As far as content goes you have some guys who will give you some segments like "Commanders win if ... " but I was so frustrated this week because I spent ALL WEEK looking for scouting reports on Tommy Devito. I wanted to hear about whether or not he can scramble (as we found out he can) or whether he has arm strength (he does). But this stuff wasn't talked about on radio. They just made puns about his moms couch and firing Ron if we lose. What happened to any given Sunday? What happened to Wink's defense? Isn't he known for abusing rookie / young QBs? What happened to the Thibs vs Leno matchup that was bad last time? or the Lawrence vs our C matchup that caused so many mistakes? I heard so little analysis of this. As far as the next coach goes, I think Ben wants to go to SD just because Herbert is a hotter and longer lasting in the top 5 / 10 QB list than Howell. Not saying that Howell can't get there, but if he wants to have that job long reserreucting Herbert's career may be a safer bet than Howell's. That said, Howell's attitude may be a thing that brings Ben here. Not saying that's a knock on Herbert but we know that Ben and Howell have a relationship, so he knows how to talk to Howell and likely won't have to learn Howell like he will Herbert.

See, thats cool and all but I want a win first and part of me is like maybe we need to learn to drop 40 to get a win. But people are screaming about running the ball more and - against Seattle we were about even in TOP, - against NE we had it by 15 minutes, - we had Phily by 3 minutes, - we had the Giants by 3 minutes So the last time we lost TOP was against ATL and it was a whopper was against ATL by 13 minutes, but we won that game. If anything, this reminds me of two games in recent memory 1) The NYG from 2021 when they played Jake Fromm (we won 22-10) 2) The DAL game from 2020 when we they played Andy Dalton (we won 41-16) Neither of those games was a beautifully executed passing performance though and I'd hope that Howell comes out of this one looking better than Alex Smith and Talyor Heinicke did those two games respectively.