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It depends on what point you are trying to drive home really.

Thought Peyton ran a more timing based offense. New the defense, new the timing, got it where it was supposed to go.

I’m going to be skeptical of whoever we choose honestly. It’s just too hard to be that good in the NFL. But I’m glad we have our choice, with a real GM. We will see. I’m always ready for failure with this team truthfully

Some of these stats are really silly to me

I actually wonder if he can get away with perjury. Not that I want to see it happen. I just am not sure how much faith I have that he wouldn’t.

Yea you cracked the code I can’t even argue that one good find can’t believe no one else has found this statistically irrefutable evidence.

RG3 could read a defense. Ever. This other guy can. He really doesn’t have to run. He does and is gonna kill teams with it, but he doesn’t have to. Running WAS griffins game and he was determined to do it. Until he couldn’t. Edit - Not. RG3 could not. Lol

Pretty deep and well thought out analysis. Can’t argue with that!

Cooley did say he HAS to stop getting hit but doesn’t think it’s that hard. Another thing he said that I never considered is that basically every college game has playoff implications and that’s probably why he played like it was his last down every down. Cause they had to score 40 to win every game.

I would absolutely. But I don’t know enough about these guys to have a serious favorite. The org might and I would respect that if they did. But if they are willing to work with either I would absolutely take a trade back. Even something slight, to 3. But you have to imagine that if the Pats feel strongly enough to do that, that we probably would feel strong enough not to.

Right. That’s the best version of him. It’s why the argument that his potential is so so much lower than the others is absurd. If he continues progressing as a passer and just manages the offense with his athleticism….it’s going to be hard to stop. I see Daniels and I think of Vicks Monday night Massacre. Vick torched us in every facet. He has that kind of potential. May never see it. But it’s worth thinking about and I can imagine thinking you can get something similar out of him consistently. It’s also, while I like Mayes youth and potential, why his age doesn’t bother me as much as it did. He has the reps and no injury history AND from what we can see few bad habits. It’s hard to get that in the NFL. 55 starts is a hell of a leg up when put into context. We literally couldn’t have planned a better time to almost have the worst record. Any other season the runner up prize in the draft is basically Jason Campbell with legs. Not this time. And we have our choice? It’s almost unfair. We ****ing deserve it lol

Right? Like simple facts about his game. Can he go through his reads or not? Coaches, execs, past QBs everybody saying yea and he excels at it. Here? No but he can run fast if you are into that. ****s silly

Whatever happened to this guy posting here? I remember a fall from grace but I never understood why.

I think most of the overzealous Maye takes come from an emotional place more than a practical or analytical place. Which is why, after being presented with facts over and over AND common sense not cracking through, it’s not worth arguing about. Just take your corners, gents. Unless we draft Maye and pacify the louder critics, we are going to be doubting GMAP and Quinn at every possible turn going forward. It’s the way of the ES. We have been doing it so long I bet some couldn’t change if they wanted to. Which will suck kinda. But it will be comfortable I guess lol.

No one who likes Jayden Daniels really has any respect when it comes to grading QBs. You can tell because they like Jayden Daniels lol

I made it up

If someone calls me a Mini-Dan in person we gotta throw hands. You can’t call me that as a man and just get away with it. We gotta squabble now.

Yea I guess my overall point is whoever we pick will be on a rookie deal and we can load the squad with talent for 5 years and see what they become.

You think the Mahomes they drafted is the same Mahomes that just won the Super Bowl? Of course not. He became a dude that can kill an NFL all by himself. Took a lot of work by him and his organization to get there. That’s the plan here they have said it.

He doesn’t have an agent but maybe he has a “management” 😉

You want that to be true so bad lol

I particularly love the idea that we are going to draft a QB and not give him a quality oline and WRs that can get open. What are you guys even talking about lol

His spit takes. He is paid for them.

he makes money off of them lol

I think so too and it makes sense when you realize he choose us....the worst spot in the league who could literally ONLY offer the #2 pick. He knew then who he wanted to start this thing with. Which is why i think its Maye. But we will see.