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This is all because of EBs son's friend's homie again isnt it? We gotta catch that guy

PFT is 1000% Florio News. Hodge I’m pretty sure was the first guy openly against Maye and started the whole conversation about him not being the next sure thing. He is consistent if that means anything. He is awfully sure of himself though and that’s never a good sign.

We both are. But we are smart enough to know it and that (fortunately??) puts us in the top 1% of other humans hahaha

I think seeing the potential in Maye requires you to understand and actually watch the game more. You can SEE some of what Daniels does that makes him special so it’s easier to look at base stats and his highlights and say he’s going to the next team that needs a QB. Also cuts both ways. Lots of people calling Daniels a running QB and not going any deeper into his game. Basically everyone is stupid but the people here on ES. And John Keim lol.

I think you should keep race out of it here in ES. I doubt your statistics can be trusted and I would hate for someone to start labeling us all by our perceived biases. Cause that **** gets real nasty real quick. You can find it all over Twitter if that’s your flavor though.

Do you y’all think we will ever get a real answer from the horses mouth (GMAP) about why he picked whoever it is he picks? No matter who it is I expect that we will never have that level of access….and we will have to trust him. And I don’t think any of of really trust him. Maybe I’m projecting though.

The Giants will fail him as an organization. Most would. But the Giants would for sure. They are gonna have a new coach next season and that’s no way to get the best out of a young guy. I would be surprised if they don’t go 1-2-3 regardless of who is picking them.

Only you and Eric Bickle would take anything of value from this lmao

Dude on the radio said his sons friend told him that he was told by some other guy (seriously, thats the rumor lol)

@DogofWar1 that sidearm delivery though….

What could it all mean!?!

Correct. It all leads to Maye. Its science so you cant argue it. (let me have my dreams Zombie, you can have my brains)

In all honesty we should be trilled that the best GM on the market for the last few years has been scouting a particular QB for years and came here because he knew we had the pick to get him. I mean, be serious. Thats the dream scenario.

Both!? But if you are being serious; im not saying you cant have other opinions than they do. I'm saying believing someone like Kiem is being played...feed bad info in an attempt to artificially raise JDs draft stock or some other conspiracy nonsense like that is laughable. In my opinion, anyway. Again, Kiem has specifically and repeatedly said what he is giving you is an educated guess and he does not have anything from the Commanders yet. These are not mutually exclusive ideas. Right cause he knew 100% he could get him. Makes all the sense in the world.

Yea someone said that to me earlier and im choosing to ignore it so I can feel good about knowing we are drafting Maye. This whole thing (for me) has been about hedging my bets so im happy about whoever we get lol. Im sick. I just wanna enjoy football again.

I think its awfully presumptuous of us to assume we know anything more than Keim, who he is talking to or the coaches. The Idea that Quinn or any other coach is only interested in the right now, because duh they are a coach, and any of us have a longer outlook then they do is silly to me. That's besides the fact that there is literally zero proof of this. Especially when it comes to us. Why wouldn't Quinn be thinking about 5 years from now? He wants to be the next Andy Reid. His plan is to win multiple SuperBowls. Dude wants to be right here, winning.

Im telling you. The ONLY (good) reason to invite Daniels and not Maye to the facility is because he is already ready to go with Maye and doesnt need to see much else. If this is true about him going to UNC practices, then it just confirms it all for me.

We do have a pretty negative view here on Daniels in general. Its almost crazy to even consider him at 2. Most of the reporters are touting him for clicks, all talking heads are lying or being lied to (and probably paid off) and all his stats and accomplishments belong to his aggressively over talented teammates. If he didn't have legs he wouldn't even be drafted in the first round. Its very easy to read the last few pages and come away feeling like that. I think he stressed at the idea that the FO is even considering Daniels. It should be a no brainer.

Help me get to this conclusion as I do not agree with it and im not sure why you say it so much.

Oh I didnt know we already watched it. Yea he is gonna need an oline, no surprise there.

I read that entire P2S% breakdown and it comes off as an really out of context statistical oddity more than anything. I mean.... measure of 'success' is arbitrary as **** imo. https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/football/news/pressure-to-sack-rate-what-is-it-and-how-can-it-be-applied What? How is that even useful? Can someone give me additional context that is missing from that read? I get that touted as constant. But I don't get how its not seen as just additional info. I feel like im missing something that is obvious to everyone else.

100% there are going to be people saying "I thought we got this guy cause he was pro ready??" or "Why did we draft a guy at 2 that needed to sit??" because people are stupid and biased and that's just how they work. Like always. But a lot of folks do rise above it. Gotta try not to give air to the people to make their biases so clear and make no attempt to get past them.

They all have talent and they all have things they can work on. Past that anything we or anyone else says means little until they are drafted and get to work. All of their flaws can be fixed or mitigated regardless of what anyone says. Mahomes had flaws, they were mitigated. Brady had flaws, he fixed them. Its always going to be like that. What you should be excited about is the organization we have. Whoever we pick, they seem to be willing to do whatever it takes to make them successful, and already have a lot in place to help them. Thats so much more important and we are already ahead of the game there. That's because teams draft them thinking it will all just work itself out. This team is not doing that. Feel good about that.

I think JP and Keim (amount others) both make a valid point about the pressure to sack %. People are looking at the number and seeing that it’s high completely without context. Without actually looking at everything in totality you don’t know if it’s really as big a deal as it seems. Apparently they have both looked at all of the sacks taken and come away with the opinion that it’s not as big a deal as it seems on paper. Keim even specifically says he spoke to people who are NFL coaches/FO that have told them it’s not concerning. I do find it odd that we are going out of our way to diminish everything these guys say in regards to this without actually adding any context. Seems biased to me. I wanna know he context. I found this cut up of all his pass and running plays. Even the failed ones (so it includes all his sacks). Judge what you can for yourself if interested. I haven’t watched it yet but when I get free time I think I will.

Well yea thats a possibility that makes sense. Maybe trying to figure out what the **** is going on with his elbow lolol I would be putting my money on Maye right now though. And if so the thread title has to be **Gay for Maye. **lighthearted and carefree. "Nan had a gay disposition and a very pretty face"