CommDownMan

With a bunch of big name WRs getting tagged, it might push Samuel/JuJu AAV higher. Not super pumped about that. But that is kind of what happens every year in FA.

They can do that or rollover unused cap. They'd be silly to force anything.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2020-nfl-free-agency-glossary-all-the-terms-you-need-to-know-0ap3000001106817 Non-exclusive franchise tag: A player who receives the non-exclusive franchise tag is free to negotiate with other teams. The player receives a one-year deal with a salary set at the greater of (a) the cap percentage average for his position (an amount equal to the sum of the franchise tag figures at a player's position over the previous five seasons divided by the sum of the salary caps over the previous five seasons multiplied by the current year's salary cap) OR (b) 120 percent of his PYS (the player's cap number from the previous season, minus any performance incentives). Teams that use the non-exclusive franchise tag hold the right of first refusal. If a designated player signs an offer sheet with another team, the player's previous team has five days to match the offer sheet. Should it decide not to, the player's original team shall be entitled to draft-choice compensation equivalent to two first-round picks.

that’s fair. Someone posted tweets suggesting post, but I don’t see anything official. Although sportrac and over the cap likely assuming so they aren’t much help either at this point. If post June 1st cut I wonder if we could do something like extend Scherff and/or Allen and maybe trigger a SB June 2. So the hit is technically lower until it actually paid.

So 38mill and change with Smith gone and Scherff tagged, but I don't think all of that is available now because of the post June 1st designation.

We have Heinicke signed for 2 years and Allen can be ERFA for 2 years. Montex likely stays PS, so a draft pick makes 3 QB on active roster. I have a feeling we already have the stop gap you mention. The second they draft a QB, IDK why they'd have any leverage for a trade at all. They can't keep him.

What I mean is there might be rules that limit post-June 1st designation when a player isn't healthy. While it may make sense to do it, it may not be an option. I recall in certain cases you couldn't cut guys, but I can't find anything right now. My point was cutting him when he can't pass physical may be a no-no, so the option isn't there. But if guaranteed shortly, then he is likely here next year, they will try and see what he's got if they must pay him (or insurance for cap hit if not ready). edit: not super official source, but covers it Knowing the guaranteed salary kicks in soon, he could reject the settlement. It would get messy, but I think it's a factor the team will consider making a cut decision. https://www.quora.com/Can-an-NFL-team-cut-an-injured-player Designate the player as waived/injured. This applies in the preseason to any un-vested player, and is an option for any player during the regular season. If a player is not going to be designated to the injured reserve list, the team will make the player an injury settlement offer. Typically this is some lump sum payment that would reflect all or a portion of any base salary and expected/unpaid bonus money, as well as the cost of medical treatment and rehabilitation for the injury. If the player accepts the settlement offer, they immediately become an unrestricted free agent and can be signed by any team in the next 24 hours. If the player accepts the settlement offer, and is not signed within the 24-hour waiver period, then he can be retained by the team, and moved to injured reserve. If the player rejects the settlement offer, things get awkward. The player essentially becomes designated as injured/reserve, receives pay and medical care accordingly, but has essentially burnt his bridge with the team, and probably can expect to be cut or traded at the earliest opportunity. They have already signaled their intent to move on from the player, so it’s pretty hard as a player to impose yourself on the team like that and then expect to be welcomed back with open arms. They probably felt it was necessary to waive the player in order to be able to sign a replacement player, so forcing them to retain the player on injured/reserve might be harming their chances to remain competitive.

So I didn't read all the comments, so this might have been answered already... There is a 66 million signing bonus paid this year and a 9 mill salary (66+9=75million) this year. They have a 5th year that will void to spread 66 mill portion over 5 years (it says 2026 as well but they don't have prorated values there...so this may be a little off as well). Overall that's how is has 75 mill cash this year, but the cap isn't crushed based on SB proration. His cap hit 2021 and 2022 of 22mill and 33 mill aren't too bad. Then it goes 44, 47 and 2025 there is a dead cap hit of 13 mill. If the cap goes up it's not too bad (if he it truly healthy and preforms). Now is it worth it? Personally no. I think he is my favorite of the could-be good, hasn't shown it club. He should be fairly low cost and has shown more moments of getting it.

We need a "Truth" button.

He or Davis was my guess all along. With QB mildly settled at best, I didn't see top names coming here. A #2 or 3 level WR makes sense with Terry and a early draft pick makes a lot of sense. Is he healthy enough to pass a physical? If not there might be injury settlement requirements and it may not be clear. While it generally benefits player to cut earlier (hence the early cut with post June 1st designation) it might benefit the team to see how recovery goes first and decide on Collins closer to season start.

I agree this is a Rivera thing. I'm not on the same cliff as you, thinking that 14+ was happening, but the tag very much surprises me and changes the negotiation starting point. Every time I see a rant about twitter, I know it's going to be your name I see as poster. I think you should do yourself a favor and ignore that ****. Haha

Yeah, don't disagree with any of this, my point was meant to be more about Kraft. The Kraft stuff in general bothers me and it seems like they can't fix sex trafficking by simply finding/punishing the lowest person of the ring. Synder seems to have been part of some terrible things with his own employees. I haven't seen evidence, but the rumors paint a very bad picture of his behavior.

I'm not sure I agree that the individual with Kraft really had an option. Not defending Synder or trying to make comparable, but I don't believe the Kraft situation is as simple as 2 consenting individuals.

First round tenders is related to RFA and he's not that. https://www.nfl.com/news/2020-nfl-free-agency-glossary-all-the-terms-you-need-to-know-0ap3000001106817

In fairness calling the Seahawks about a trade, isn't anything close to agreement/deal or anything. If I call the Seahawks receptionist about Wilson on my flag football team, I can count that as contact, right?

Cowboys need Dak and he knows it and has leverage to get 40 mill. If Dallas doesn't pull the trigger, saying he isn't worth 40mill, does the market say he's worth that? I don't see it compared to some of these 40 mill guys and wonder who would make that jump.

Alex Smith has 2 years of Prorated SB left (About 4.3 mill per year). Pre-June 1st we eat ~8.6 mill this year, cap number was 23 mill, so ~14mill difference. Post-June 1st we eat 4.3 mill bonus this year, so with 23 mill cap we save ~19 mill. But there will be 4.3 mill dead money attached to the 2022 cap. So we pay all 8.6 mill dead for prorated SB either way, it's just do we do all in one year or over 2. edit: https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/06/the-nfls-post-june-1-cuts-explained Since there are other comments, heres more if you want to read. The cap benefit is also now (this article was written June 1st, so I'm wrong). This is just a designation that benefits team and player. More cap space now and player enters "normal" free agency timing when teams (historically) have more money. edit 2: with all these potential cuts some guys may hold out longer than usual. I wonder if in a weird year they hope some bargains will remain on the market longer and they can take advantage of this money in June.

It used to require the players to actually be on the team until after June 1st to get the dead cap portion moved to following year. But waiting until June 1st makes it harder for guys to sign with teams since FA and draft happened. So several years ago they made the change to cut guys early to give them a chance to sign during normal FA and teams could just make the designation to decide to eat the dead cap all this year (pre-June 1st) or split over 2 years (post). With rollover cap, there isn't much reason to not do post. If you don't use it will still be there later. Although you can only designate 2 per year, so there is some limit.

Kyle Rudolph effectively got 6mill per over last 4 years. With age and down cap, I'd be ok with like 1yr / 4-5ish mill. I think we have room for 2 TEs potentially, so it's not like that would block anyone. We did several 1 and 2 year deals last year, so I'm expecting a few like this. Not saying it's going to be this guy, but I could see this being team friendly enough to do it.

https://twitter.com/God_Son80/status/1365151681114112002?ref_src=twsrc^tfw He had some injuries, but starting coming on strong at end of year. Depending on cost, I could see him as an option (if this tweet is about a potential release). edit: idk what I'm doing...

This is why I did my offseason exercise with defense heavy in FA and offense heavy in draft. What LB or DB wouldn't want to play behind this DL. Players should be begging to play with these guys. They have agents say things like the above, but that should only be offense in my mind. Najee was my hope at 19, get maybe OT in 2nd, 2 of WR/TE/QB in 3rd and see how things play out. Offense it would be reasonable to at least match last year with better TOP and defense would be exciting.

Ever try waving your arms at max speed and try to eat a pudding cup with a straw?

Cost to them would be 19mill and 21mill and nothing guaranteed. Not saying that's ideal and a team would trade for him. Guess it depends on if they think he could get more. Zero guarantees might be an advantage. We'd keep the ~9mill prorated as dead cap. Whether we spread pre/post June 1st at this point it's the same for release vs trade.

A mild Fields drop and trade up may work. I see it at least as more likely than Watson. v Otherwise I agree about Heinicke at this point.

Saints didn't show when this first opened and I was surprised the Eagles were worst. Had to open to find them. Haha Amazing the Cardinals have like 45% of their snaps to be FAs. Alex Smith isn't a FA, but will likely have his snaps replaced. So this a fun exercise, but it likely will change a bit before FA opening.