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I'll add I didn't think David was likely, but considering the Bucs only have 23 mill and they have another great younger LB in White, would they look to spend the money elsewhere.

So LaVonte David projects as ~13mill and ARob ~20mill. Considering we have a defense ready to be super exciting, getting David and say Anthony Harris at FS at 14, I see that as 2 premier and then one Curtis Samuel/Corey Davis tier 2 type. While Robinson would be nice (I don't see it without a true QB...), I think positions that are premium but generally lower average cost is my go to (LB and FS at 27 vs 1 WR at 20). Go offense heavy in the draft. None of that addresses QB though, unless 19 is a surprise fall.

Only 4 teams have more. Gap to 4 sure, but Smith going adds 15+ (depedning on retire, pre/post June 1st..). edit: also consider the effective. Bucs have 24 here, but 31 players are on contract, 22 minimum deals get them to full roster (hence the 11 effective). Basically showing 14/32 teams are currently over the cap.

"Almost all of this is attributed to drop in head coach of color and general managers of color, because we put additional weight on those positions," Lapchick told The Associated Press. Ok, I'd need all the maths to really get this, but it's not 1 to 1 either. Good to know.

At minimum you should quote where you found it. edit: https://spokesman-recorder.com/2021/01/15/nfl-2020-diversity-grades-still-lag-behind/ "D+ for HCs; F for GMs; D for CEOs/presidents; A+ for assistant coaches; A+ for players; B for senior administration; B+ for professional administration; and A+ for NFL League Office racial hiring." So that 89% is probably across the board and not specific to things like upper positions. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2020/11/10/nfl-minority-coach-general-manager-hiring-proposal-approved/6234064002/ "• A team that loses a minority assistant coach who becomes a head coach or loses a personnel executive who becomes a general manager will receive third-round compensatory picks in each of the next two drafts. • A team that loses two minority staffers to head coach and general manager positions would receive three third-round picks." These comp picks are incentive to train/develop vs hire the POC. The focus is on the positions that are not in that 89% level. edit 2: Not saying it's right wrong or otherwise, I just wanted to understand how/why this is set up and if the values you presented were representative of the true results. I agree that this is probably a convo that isn't siuted long term for the stadium.

I think that's why we see lateral moves vs promotions. I think people see a set of skills and maybe some missing pieces. To me this is like finding the 4-3 linebacker that looked bad in a 3-4 and putting them in a better position to succeed. You don't know until you try, but give him proper training in those other areas and then see how he does. IDK, but I am really not surprised a Bruce Allen employee is under prepared for the next step. I think he actively did things to keep power and tried to minimize growth in a way that would challenge his role/status. Kyle Smith may also be lacking what it takes, sure. But we'll find out later if he is given a chance or not.

I've had times where I switched roles and my boss had other tasks and I did what I could to do my role and some extras. The problem in those cases is you drop the things you don't know to look for or how to correct when they first come up. Kyle Smith had Bruce as a "leader" and Rivera didn't have time to train him in certain areas. Maybe we'll see there is more to it, but him not being ready may have nothing to do with not being willing and able. Bringing in 2 new guys and having a guy like Stokes they are comfortable with, it may have been Mayhew/Hurney that decided he should go as part of a negotiation. Going to SF/LA and learning the next steps might be all he needs. We will find out in time. However, a guy that worked under Allen for years not being prepared to jump into that role hardly surprises me.

https://overthecap.com/free-agency/ I filters UFA and SF Trent, Compton, Reed and Bergstrom...3 being lineman. Some coaches really do like certain guys/types. Quite a few CBs here, but many IDK most.

Many have experience from slot, but who knows who would do well at both. To use a Darby comparable on sportrac, see deal below. (Yes I switched back to over the cap for the picture....) Say it was 3/30 with a 6 mill signing bonus 2021 Darby 3mill base, 2 mill SB (prorated value 6 mill SB, no roster bonus), 1 mill per game bonus (Cap 6) 2022 8 base, 2 Prorated SB, 1 mill per game bonus (11 mill) 2023 10, 2, 1 (13 mill) or cut and have 2 mill dead money. If 2021 was that bad it'd be 4 mill dead, but overall still 1/10 (3 mill base + 6 mill SB accelerated forward and max 1 mill game bonus). Career earnings are 13 mill, so guaranteeing 9 mill year 1 might be enough to get him to be at that 8 mill AAV. Base salary value year 2/3 would drop 3 mill each and 8 and 10 mill (obviously better long term), but I think you can structure like this and plan on it basically being 1/10 with 2 options.

Well you're at drop in production and I'm stuck at who is X. So we can let it die here since neither is really right or wrong (IMO). I truly hope the FO can find Darby 2 or sign Darby to a lesser deal. I'd love a super bowl team at the cap floor with 53 player X's (over exaggeration of the point). But player X isn't always available and every team wants him too. I know I'm limited in my scouting and view of all the FA CBs (well all the FAs), but looking I can't find Player X. If they player doesn't exist or goes to any other team, sign me up for Darby. That's where I'm at, even at 10 mill. Keep the D strong.

Yeah, I had edited to add that. Guess it was after you wrote. I do wonder if we did more zone because of linebacker play. The link I put in my edit say we were near bottom in man coverage. I wonder if that is by design or playing to strengths and weaknesses of the players...

Well seeing as you bolded and quoted the part where I said he was no guarantee to repeat... But if that's your only point then your right repeating 600 snaps, the most heis had since 2016 is indeed a tall / unlikely outcome. I think with this DL, Darby likely knows he looked better. I'd be fine to hard ball a bit a aim for say 3/21. Not arguing that I want to spend 10 million. Then go get a guy like Xavier Woods from the Cowboys in a 3/18, who has played slot and FS and Malik Hooker 1/2. The versatility with Woods, Curl and Fuller hedge the bet of a less productive / more injured seasons from Darby/Hooker does happen. Most of the bounce back guys I see are slot guys. I think with what we have the need for an outside guy makes more sense. So while I get the idea is to get similar production for cheaper, I just don't see that player available. I don't want to let Darby go and then have no answer next year and that makes pursing worth it. Good news for everyone is I'm not paid to dig as deep and hopefully the fancy new FO does see that guy. -------------------------------------- Well, maybe this is who we can dream of.... it even mentions a shot at the 2021 Darby... After being worse in first 2 seasons and then out last year, I wouldn't want to bank on it. But I might be happy to have him opposite Darby with Fuller in the slot...hmmm. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-free-agency-top-100-free-agents 89. CB Gareon Conley A former first-round pick, Conley has had his ups and downs, grading out at 64.5 and 64.0 in his two full seasons. He missed all of the 2020 season. Conley is better in man coverage, as he’s graded in the 69th percentile in single coverage compared to just the 37th percentile in zone since entering the league. He’s also forced incompletions on 22.2% of his targets, the second-best rate in the NFL since 2017. Conley is worth a look in a man-heavy system. Contract Analysis: The former 2017 first-round pick of the then-Oakland Raiders was traded to the Houston Texans for a third-round pick after just two seasons. Conley is a perfect candidate to be 2021’s Ronald Darby, as he profiles very similarly — and that’s what he should be selling to potential suitors. Prediction: Texans sign Conley for one year, $2.5 million: $1 million fully guaranteed at signing. edit: https://www.giants.com/news/film-study-washington-football-team-ron-rivera-kyle-allen-chase-young Apparently were more zone (these things I don't see as much....so based on the blurb of man vs zone abilities also not the best idea). Although maybe we did more zone because our LBs were bad...and again I get back to I'm not the fancy new FO guy that makes these decisions, haha.

If finding the next one were easy all teams would. I hope they can, but without the who it's hard to agree. I'd love if they could and I'm sure they'll look. But if there isn't Darby 2, then I'd rather have Darby at 10 then a fa we hope is as good or better and pay more like the 15 we gave norman.

The position only works if you have a solution that makes sense. You can say you don't want him and that's fine if there is an answer to replace him. There are likely options to have a Darby part 2, but the guarantee that player does well isn't all that different than Darby being healthy or repeating. Tell me who you think will be more consistent next year? With holes at WR, LB and FS I'd rather use draft resources elsewhere and even if we look for Darby part II, there is room for Darby, Fuller and Darby part II. We have some potential with others, but I think this is a deal you make.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-football-team/ronald-darby-16774/market-value/ This break down covers a range of items. A 10.4 mill salary would put him as the 18th highest CB value. FA will bump over best on rookie deals, so would be similar to ~20-24 range CB play. There are several items that look at length of contract based on age that makes 3/30 as an argument with a decent rationale. The biggest concern for me is the injury history (his GP% is 13% lower than the guys he was compared to for this). I'd try something like 8 mill base with 2mil being tied to games played. Gets him to the 10 mill mark, but only if he stays healthy all year.

Rams, 49ers, GB who each have an ex-redskins coach that is doing well as a head coach.

For me Kyle Smith is said to have stood up and argued against Haskins when everyone else was quiet. Being on the same page is all well and good when things are going well and align. That standing up probably came across as head butting or being firm. I don't think it's a bad thing unless he was constantly wrong. Hopefully same page doesn't mean they don't challenge each other too. Knowing how to disagree with each other may help, as long as they are challenging each other. That I don't see how we'd ever know.

Either way, I would assume they would at least have Collins in camp to see how he is healing. This year is fully guaranteed, so I would imagine they will wait until after June 1st to make the move. So the early designation for June 1st probably wouldn't be needed. I think he needs to pass a physical first or there has to be an injury settlement which would be different as well. That would be 9.6 mill (Collins) and 4.3 mill (Smith) dead money for 2022. It is rare for teams to carry this much dead before the season starts. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ I still think there is no way Collins isn't here at least 1 more year. Alex I could see more, but they will at least wait and talk through the decision with him I'd imagine.

Our cap hits are 15.2 to 17.2mill. In a trade the new team would be 12-14mill. With so many teams seemingly close to the cap level with the lower projections, I don't see him being high on many lists after the injury. I wouldn't trade for him without seeing his play after injury and I don't see many taking on 12-14 mill per to try their luck. Achilles tendon injuries can be tricky (remember Junior Gallette tearing the 2nd one the year after the first). DeAngelo Hall re-tore his surgically repaired tendon as well. Those are just skins that I remember and I'm sure it's fairly common. If he plays well this year and stays healthy, combined with a cap jump for 2022, the 3 year / 39 mill may look reasonable, but I'd imagine we're looking at 2022 as the earliest he isn't around.

Ok, this aged poorly faster than cheese in a summer sun... But +1 everyone and I think it still works. Haha.

Yeah Suh was also among his picks. Sometimes here people want talent even if not choir boys. It could be part of how the collective worked in Detroit. I’d like to think Rivera has a higher focus on character and hopefully that impacts the big board evaluation. Idk, but one can hope.

So Hurney as GM seems clear. Kyle Smith and Martin Mayhew were both titled VP of Player Personnel. Doug Williams was the Senior VP of Player Personnel (prior to Ron). You could have Hurney GM, Mayhem Assistant GM, Smith as Senior VP of Player Personnel. All assuming that they want all 3. Now does this mean it makes sense? Not at all. But this would be a way every one gets something raise wise if they want all 3 to stay. There was a mention that Ron saw the FO as barren. This would significantly increase experience.

Not to mention he drafted Ebron who wasn't a bust (just an overdraft). Depending on team needs (and I'm not going back to understand the 2014 Lions) it's not like we're talking historic failure at that pick either.

So that's a fair question and when you look from Sportrac and OTC and other sources there is always a level of difference and I personally have a hard time digging out some of the more specific differences like this. About a week ago OTC said ~41 mill, so maybe they updated the carryover for 2021 and didn't update 2020 tab value of 22 mill because they didn't know where the difference was related to??? I don't know a good way to answer that, but hopefully we don't need to subtract another 7 and it's simply that they didn't bother updating 2020 tab. edit: One other note, I don't see the calculation that lists each piece of the equation I posted. So that's part of why finding the answer to your question tough. Showing work (it was required in HS...haha) and also dating the pages for last update would help figure some of these things out. edit 2: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-football-team/yearly/cap/ So again a different value, but does break down dead money and dead cap. This is 32 mill...so different than both numbers but the carryover matches the newer value we see.

No bump. It was already factored in (at least an estimate). https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ Cap Space = (Team Salary Cap) - (Active Cap Spending) - (Dead Money) Team Salary Cap = (Base Salary Cap) + (Carryover) +/- (Adjustments)