CommDownMan

How much has he shown since the injury? I feel like there could be a bit more than just mental. I think it's a lot of money and capital to gamble on personally and add to it, it bails out the Eagles from a guy they don't seem to want.

Future cap hits are tough, but that's why I looked at 2022 a bit. It will depend largely on if the projected cap bounces back to original projection (something teams hopefully know better than myself). IDK if I'll find now, but I saw the players association would agree to a lower cap now under the assumption the 3-5 year total is similar. Base cap this year is projected 180.5 and 2022 is 227.5 or about a 25% increase. Chase Roullier contract is about 4, 10, 11, 12 or about 2.3, 4.4, 4.4 and 4.4% of cap. They may not do all deals that way, but it's part of why I structured Year 1 closer to 60% of the subsequent Cap hits. Keep in mind the guarantees aren't generally big after first 2 year (at least for non-QBs), so there is wiggle room in the future. If Allen gets extension now, we'd have to consider Payne the following year and Logan Thomas (especially without a replacement) and Cornelius Lucas (a 2nd or 3rd round OT might be able to take over) and MiKissic (with Harris / Gibson a 2022 draft pick is probably best here). No one outside those 4 would be critical or big numbers and with planning 2, maybe 3 could be replaced with draft pick. With about 48 million projected here even if we QB fails, we aren't hurting if a 30ish mill option is needed. 2023 Moses, Ioannidis, Schweitzer, Sweat 5th year option, McClaurin, Holcomb, Moreland....this year certainly looks like the tough one. We have 180 million projected, so this far out is tough to fully work out without really creating a spreadsheet to track all the hits over time.

This is the elite defense / QB market too crazy roster - hits twice at LB and 1 FS, but misses WR/TE at least in FA. KPL was 3 mill this year and Hopkins 2.5, so I raise those from your values. Cap space currently - $40 mill Cuts - Alex Smith~14.7 mill savings, Bostic has a $3 mill hit. $58 available million cap Re-Ups G - Brandon Scherff – 4yr-$60 mill ($15mill SB, Salary 5, 10, 14, 16) – Cap Hit Year 1 $8.75mill LB – Kevin Pierre-Louis – 2yr-6 mill – Cap Year 1 - 2.5mill CB – Ronald Darby – 3yr /27mill (8 mill SB, 3, 7, 9) – Year 1 Cap hit - $5.667mill K - Dustin Hopkins – 2yr/5 mill (2, 3) – Year 1 Cap Hit 2mill CB - Fabian Moreau – 2yr / 6 mill – Cap hit year 1 – 2.5mill QB - Kyle Allen – ERFA – $850,000 ( I think for year 2 ERFA) QB – Heinicke – ERFA or RFA…not sure. Going 2.25 tender for RFA to be high side. With rule of 51, ~36.5mill remaining. Free Agents – defense only S - Anthony Harris/Justin Simmons – Matching Scherff deal – Year 1 $8.75 LB – Jayon Brown –4yr, 36 mill ($10 mill SB, 4, 6, 8, 8 ) – Year 1 - $6.5 mill LB – LaVonte David – 3yr/39mill ($10 mill SB, 6, 10, 13) – Year 1 $8.5) Additions: Add 24 mill to cap (leaves ~14.5 million with Rule of 51). Draft: Defense definitively team strength and here I have a 2 part option. Trade up for right guy presents itself or stay at 19 and hope that Najee Harris is there. Teams are going crazy for QBs, so I’m going to go Harris here. That would leave 2/3/3/4/5/7/7. Draft picks would be about 7 mill ($8 remaining again rule of 51). Offense: Offensive line would be unchanged, 2nd round or later tackle not likely to be immediate upgrade. LT would be nice, but I don’t see immediate start. RB – Gibson / Harris / McKissic. This would be the focal point for inexperienced QB. WR – Here I would add a 2nd or 3rd rounder. No WR in FA would be disappointing, but this exercise was the elite defense game. QB –Allen, Heinicke and 2nd/3rd round QB would be mostly inexperience. Not ideal but this is assuming trade market stays crazy both vets and the draft. TE – Logan Thomas and ??? Probably Marcus Baugh and a draft pick. The only real 2021 change here is Harris (which would be big) and an WR draft pick. Lacks excitement from a 2021 change at QB depending on development of 1 of the 3. Defense: DL: No change. Allen has a 10 mill cap, so could definitely do a long term deal and stay around that 10 mill number. We’d need to decide of Kerrigan and idk what that contract would look like. I think he’d test the market and see what would be out there. LB: Brown and David in the middle to add to current group would be solid. DB: Same with more experienced FS. Probably a 4th/5th in here as a depth should be considered. With the additions above (and I didn’t do all the math here) we’d have ~37 million in cap (edit 2: in 2022) (up to 44 depending on rollover) with about 40 players under contract including Jonathan Allen. ~10 mill to Payne for year 5 option would leave us at 27mill. (edit: this isn't true...I didn't count Smith 2022 savings here, which would bump things another 21 mill to 48 mill). Holcomb/Collins probably have a 60/40 split based on 4/3/4 or 4/2/5. If Collins doesn't bounce back another 6 to 10 mill could be added 2022.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Geez, in depth tweet here NBC. It only takes me 8 seconds to laugh and say no.

TH's agent seems to think RFA. But I guess we'll see if he's simply hoping he's accrued enough time to not be ERFA. IDK. https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/1/12/22226454/erfa-rfa-and-washingtons-quarterbacks

TH is RFA, not ERFA. Difference of ~2mill vs 750K, agree he'll be tendered. Kendricks had most of his years with the Eagles and played a bunch in the playoffs after being signed off the Seattle PS. He also could be going to jail for insider trading...but seems to keep pushing the trial date back. I could see him at a KPL level deal and hope that he's a backup rotational guy.

But then who would catch passes for this offen... never mind. Carry on.

This was 2020 values. 27 mill. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-franchise-tag-meaning-deadline-2020-values-rules/1nn0kl8x7hg5210kevqk2oim4w

Do we have to wait until after the Superbowl to ask about Mahomes? That's usually how it works for coaches.

We may need to re-adjust our attitudes if they go for Darnold...

If a ERFA the cost is similar to the 750k for Allen. As a 2nd or 3rd string, the price is right.

Yeah, and they could use the return to get Rodgers the support he was looking for to begin with. Seems like it would make some sense.

And the price we have to pay (or avoid).

What bothers me is they could go Pitts 6, WR 20 and really change that offense. I hope there isn't a 1st in there. Bears would really be bailing them out.

I was commenting yesterday. Philly still loves Foles. I still think a first is dumb.

I wonder how much of the 2022 stuff could change with full seasons and full participation. There will likely be several guys that make a leap after the time away. Time will tell.

So you don't want a 35 yo JaMarcus Russell?

No, I was referring to the comment about the Gase effect on Darnold. I'm saying Darnold vs Darnold wasn't that different (2018 was pre-Gase). Could have multi quoted, but didn't. Sorry that wasn't clear.

I am too, but don't do that often. I like most of this and think it puts us in good position. With Darby's injury history I think 2 or 3 is fine. If we went 4, I'd push him to take less AAV. I mean I'd like a bit less period, but going longer, he'd have to take less for me. Moreau wasn't really played last year, in times it seemed they could use another CB. If they like him, the deal you say isn't bad, but I don't see a 3 yr deal here either. Samuel (or Corey Davis) and Brown have been on my list for a bit I don't see a ARob/Godwin or L. David for various reasons. Everett I'm not sure. He's been frustrating in the games I've seen and I'd be curious if 5 AAV gets it done. Hooker I think is a good prove it deal, but I'd imagine he'd want a one year deal. All nit-picky stuff. I think as you mentioned it puts us in good position for the draft. Like KPL, I hope they have another low cost LB they can add as well.

I think Miami then was overall better than the Jets have been, but the gap still remains. Plus, Darnolds numbers were fairly similar pre-Gase (although being his rookie year that may not be fair). If Darnold was cut and we could sign less than 9.7mill, I'd be willing to talk about it. I don't see that being likely though.

If trade is with Bears, I think Foles could come back and then they go Hurts with Foles as backup. I think if they are comfortable trading Wentz, they still like Hurts. Then I still see their 1st going to a WR. But that is nothing more than outsider thought and that doesn't mean anything. Haha.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I know why it shouldn't be surprising... Outside on not broken RGIII and few random games out of some of these guys, there really isn't same level moxie. You don't bank on it, but we are a starving fan base and TH threw us a chicken bone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Washington_Football_Team_starting_quarterbacks 1992 Mark Rypien (16) 1993 Mark Rypien (10) / Rich Gannon (4) / Cary Conklin (2) 1994 Heath Shuler (8) / John Friesz (4) / Gus Frerotte (4) 1995 Gus Frerotte (11) / Heath Shuler (5) 1996 Gus Frerotte (16) 1997 Gus Frerotte (13) / Jeff Hostetler (3) 1998 Trent Green (14) / Gus Frerotte (2) 1999 Brad Johnson (16) 2000 Brad Johnson (11) / Jeff George (5) 2001 Tony Banks (14) / Jeff George (2) 2002 Shane Matthews (7) / Patrick Ramsey (5) / Danny Wuerffel (4) 2003 Patrick Ramsey (11) / Tim Hasselbeck (5) 2004 Mark Brunell (9) / Patrick Ramsey (7) 2005 Mark Brunell (15) / Patrick Ramsey (1) 2006 Mark Brunell (9) / Jason Campbell (7) 2007 Jason Campbell (13) / Todd Collins (3) 2008 Jason Campbell (16) 2009 Jason Campbell (16) 2010 Donovan McNabb (13) / Rex Grossman (3) 2011 Rex Grossman (13) / John Beck (3) 2012 Robert Griffin III (15) / Kirk Cousins (1) 2013 Robert Griffin III (13) / Kirk Cousins (3) 2014 Robert Griffin III (7) / Kirk Cousins (5) / Colt McCoy (4) 2015 Kirk Cousins (16) 2016 Kirk Cousins (16) 2017 Kirk Cousins (16) 2018 Alex Smith (10) / Josh Johnson (3) / Colt McCoy (2) / Mark Sanchez (1) 2019 Case Keenum (8) / Dwayne Haskins (7) / Colt McCoy (1) 2020 Alex Smith (6) / Dwayne Haskins (6) / Kyle Allen (4)

I did see a Chicago rumor and it would make sense. Philly and Foles without Pederson... I wonder if that would generate the same buzz. Interesting idea at least.

It says aggressive offer(S). I wonder how many teams have legitimately put in offers. I agree it's unlikely to be WFT, unless they think he has regressed and will be McNabb like...

And people are saying a 1st rounder... Prove it deals are cheap. 9.7 mill and a 1st is not cheap. Yeah, but if only 2 QBs were left in the world, we'd all still pick Darnold. 😆