CommDownMan

I lived in NC when Carolina was good, so I was a fan then. He also looked better. I saw a comment somewhere about Cam in a Taysom Hill type role. Above it was mentioned he was humbled as well. Heinicke is exciting, but no guarantee. Make Cam a QB/RB role and give a 60 (Heinicke)/40 (Cam) split. Draft Najee Harris and be a consistent running threat. I don't know how it looks over a full season, but it could be an interesting offense. If we strike out in WR FA and bring in an unknown draft pick it would at least tip time of possession, giving our D more rest and making things interesting. Not saying it's my favorite idea, but I'd rather that then a bunch of others trade thoughts that have been listed in this mega thread. Hedges the bet on Heinicke injury or regression as well and requires a bit less physical toll on a player that has had trouble going a full game.

I was excited when they drafted him and wondered about his usage down the stretch. It seems like the talent is there, but it's hard to see the teams opinion being really positive. It makes sense from our perspective to bring back at a lower deal, but I'm torn if that's something the team wants to do. More gut feeling than real understanding, but just my thought on him. KPL probably depends on if they spend on a David, Jayon Brown or Milano (or draft pick). I think they want to upgrade here and it'll be his cost going forward vs who else they bring in. I'd be curious if they swap Bostic (~3 mill saving) depending on any LB they bring in and if cost is similar. I would guess they sign one bigger name and then try to keep one of Bostic/KPL at ~3mill on a backup role, where the need is bigger (LaVonte David/KPL or Brown/Bostic).

Definitely not. But I don't really like people, so I abstain for the greater good. Haha

Don't put the swap 1sts too seriously, the Jets also have #23. But 23 wouldn't be terrible. If we sat at 19 on draft day and had 5 guys we liked fairly equally, I'd go 19 to 23 and that be it. Basically a 4th rounder. I still wouldn't be happy, but that would be minimal damage.

So I don't study like some of you, but it sounds to me he's more new age LB like Jayon Brown. Decent run stoppers, better coverage type. I think we could use a more traditional LB and a coverage type, depending on the cost.

Titans have a few guys we should talk to including Corey Davis and Jayon Brown. I think someone mentioned a swing tackle. But they have some solid FA and likely won’t keep them all.

I see us as 5th now, prior to smith release and colts just added 25 for Wentz. So we will be 5th, 5 mill behind colts and would jump to 4th if/when smith cut. Jax 25/Jets 15 have a lot of space and Pats would have more by 10ish, so decent gaps to top 3. edit: Alex is ~15 depending on pre/post June 1st. Also, I have no idea how much Bengals, Broncos or following teams could cut, so theoretically they could pass too, IDK.

From page 259 Someone took the over... 🤑 I'm assuming you mean the leftover part? Indy's portion looks a lot nicer with Eagles eating a lot of dead. Basically 25-26mill per. If (big if) he looks anything like his better years it's a solid deal. Not to mention cutting him later there is no guaranteed money if they do it before a league year.

1st is based off 70% playing time and playoffs or 75% playing time. Decent shot he gets there. Obviously we'll see ~1 year from now. Either way not "Stafford" haul. Talk had already quieted, so I think a lot of teams were agreeing the numbers/picks being mentioned were crazy.

I would guess Scherff and agent are the hold up, waiting to see the final cap numbers.

My point is what is rumor and what is truth. Until they have a chance at the podium with both you just dont know. Maybe they do like Wilson more, but we're at smoke and mirror stage of the game.

There could be several teams that do and it means nothing if Jax isn't one of them. We'll never know officially.

Yeah, does show a level of start over it seems. I don't think Watson is cheap based on this, but makes Watson trade more inevitable.

Wow, interesting.

He would get here and be like "this is why I need to be involved in FO decisions...."

I was half expecting a picture of a bench.

In MLB they sign 16 yo kids in the DR and talk about projectability. And the risk for that can be as low as 10k (I think with caps in place now as high as ~5 mill). Small sample sizes can lead to huge variability, especially when were talking 20yo that still aren't at peak development. Take Kyle Allen as an example. QBR 95 (2 games), 38.3 (13 games) and 74.5 (4 games). Total attempts is right around the 600 snap threshold you were talking about. At the end of the day finding stats (traits? tendencies?) that are projectable are how scouts get paid/promoted, but it's almost like determining a guys ability based on a highlight reel. Of course they look good when you cherry pick. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleKy00.htm edit for reference.

Is this all time? 1st rounders? It's a fairly small list so curious (and all 1st rounders). Obviously guys falling later in the draft are less likely to do well and/or be seniors that had more attempts. However it still strikes me as a super short list.

So it might bite us later not extending, but with basically 2/16mill left (8 AAV) and more recent deals, I'm not sure an extension makes a lot of sense. Trent Brown is similar age and if we went as high as 16.5 AAV we'd be higher cap hits all years. Bulaga at 10 AAV is basically same cap hit first 2 years (just lower year 1 and higher year 2) and basically a 14 mill AAV option. My guess would be 12AAV and that benefit would be more on a keeping him vs a cap benefit, but does he agree to 12? I guess getting guarantees and not being ignored at a lower level there is leverage to be less than typical averages. https://overthecap.com/player/bryan-bulaga/1092/ https://overthecap.com/player/trent-brown/4092/

Yeah, dead money almost completely gone. 7.7 mill in 2022 is pretty small considering a lot of these OL contracts we are seeing.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/04/colts-trade-no-26-to-redskins Sweat trade we got 26 and gave up 46 and future 2. 19 has more value, but a 1st back might require a big drop. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2020/story/_/id/29045298/2020-nfl-draft-trade-tracker-every-deal-first-round-pick Last year Patriots gave up 23 to Chargers for 37 (2nd) and 71 (3rd). While there have been instances of future 1sts, its not real common unless someone loves a faller. I'm fine moving back to 30-35 if there are say 10 guys we like with similar grades, but I'd wager it might be more like 3rd and future 3rd or just a future 2nd. https://www.nfl.com/news/2019-nfl-draft-trade-tracker-details-of-all-the-moves-0ap3000001027756 One more from 2019... Eagles did 22 for 25, 127 (4), 197 (6) Giants did 30 for 37, 132 (4), 142 (5) Make the 2 4th 2022 3rds. Starting at 19, say go back to 29 (same 3 Eagles + 7 Giants spots). Have 1st (29), add 5th and 6th this year and 2 3rd next year. Not as sexy, but wouldn't change too much by dropping this year. https://www.footballperspective.com/2018-first-round-draft-trades/ I lied, one more. 2018 Saints gave up future first. Packers trade: 14th overall Saints trade: 27th overall, 147th overall, and 2019 1st round pick So they added a 5th and went 13. That's Bucs or out of first round. Hard to say, but doable I guess.

Maybe to lower pick ask, but a starting LT for a backup DT doesn't seem even.

Game-day is probably being active. The others are probably if he starts, but it's not really clear.

IDK, I checked a few vids and heard it like this. @KDawg I've opened up the floor, it's your time to shine some light on this guy

I did watch a highlight and it's basically Michelle -Mi + Bu. It wouldn't take long to get used to saying.