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The play calling absolutely sucked. But on 2nd he could have ran into the end zone (and I'd he didn't there was enough time to spike and have a 1st down play) 3rd down he had plenty of time and no need to rush. He could have waited to see if anything opened up.

Rivera has gotten worse. The Defense is good, except when playing with a lead. So that tells me its Del Rio. And Wentz is terrible. Just God awful. Has some talent so can make some good plays but overall is only hurts us. You win and you can be .500 by the weekend. Now it's over.

3 plays to go 2 yards and you can't do it??

Wentz needs to be gone. 3 plays from the 2 and all 3 could have been int

Cool. When you start with a wrong premise I can understand why you think that. When eventually Wentz gets hurts remember this post as you will suddenly shocked the Oline doesn't look bad anymore

Watch. His first big sack was against a 3 man rush where he kept going back vs stepping up In plenty of space. I cant think of a more embarrassing way to say "I don't understand the trenches" then to blame just the Oline on sacks

Btw. The idea that this is on the Online is ridiculous. The O line hasn't been bad. In fact i saw a stat that showed Wentz actually had the 4th most time in the pocket. He doesnt step up, he doest recognize blitzes, he doesn't do hot reads, he hold the ball forever. The issue is not the line. It's wentz

I'm done with Wentz. I thought we would have been better off going with TH and upgrading elsewhere but that Wentz was a upgrade. But he's getting worse every game. Wentz needs to be benched

I give them 2.5 COMBINED. I think there is more then a vacuum. For instance- Yes _ Settle was a back up. But a good one that because he could give other players a rest at time, made them better. I agree with your other takes. I like Wentz as a stop gap as well, but he cost us a LOT for a stop gap.

I think for THIS year -It 100% is. Because Even if Wentz lights it up and sets all sorts of records, The cost of bringing him was cutting other players and not signing FA's. So how many more games did we win with Wentz vs if we had kept Henicke and spent that money elswhere? You play to win right? We can't talk Wentz and NOT discuss how much it cost us. The goal is to win games and EVERY player we sign should be with the focus us does having this player on our team increase the numbers of wins we have. I keep going back - What games did we lose last year that we would have won if Wentz was the QB? Is our record any different right now if we didnt trade for Wentz?

So you are saying last year we win 15 games if Wentz was QB over Henicke? Come on. We were having a good discussion.

I don't know. But I will say it's more then we were the last one. The second to last team desegregated 6 years earlier. But I was pre my time. So I honestly don't know if there were scandals or not.

I care as in I still watch every game, I still get excited before the game and my son and I will still discuss and dissect every game. But as other have said when we lost I use to not be able to watch football at all. Now I do. I now longer focus on it the night before or after and I haven't been to a game in 8 years

Yes I mean I don't know all the scandals then vs now but the NFL literally was on the verge of removing the owner due to his on going refusals to sign a black player.

I love Sean Taylor. He was a beast. But he wasn't a QB or a coach, which are the only 2 individuals I think could change the course of a entire team for a long period of time. He was a monster for us in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007 (When healthy). But we went 6-10 in 2004 and 5-11 in 2006 and was 5-4 when he got injured in 2007. Sean Taylor doesnt get shot and the world is a better place and he goes on and has a great career. But the course of Redskins history doesn't really change EXCEPT for the fact that maybe Gibbs stays one more year and 2008 was better.

Dup Post

We didnt win the first two games. We are 1-2 Again -I have no doubt the Wentz is better then Henicike. But if We don't sign Wentz and kept Flowers, Settle and collins I think we are at LEAST 1-2 as well, if not 2-1. I encourage you to read again what I wrote. I dont think Wentz is the issue. I think the issues is we did nothing to improve our defense, we didn't even take steps to keep it at least the same as last year. And we didn't do that because we couldn't afford to after we traded for Wentz. Who I don't think has played well enough to overcome what we lost. If this was Baseball -I would be discussing WAR. (Wins over replacement). In my head - Henicke would have a WAR off about 0 (Doesnt win us additional games vs a avg QB, didnt cost us games vs a AVG QB). I would say Wentz has a WAR of about 2.5 I would say Settle, Collins and Flower combined has a WAR of 2.5 Sooo - Trading for Wentz at the expensive of the other guys we had to cut to afford him gives us no additional wins.

That's a good what if.

My Son (21) sent me a text during the game that said "I HATE when you tell me you have no answers for this team. YOU made me a fan and doomed me to this life". It made my analytical mind wonder. So i started comparing the 30 years we had since our last SB season with the 30 years the Redskins had from 1946 to 1975. (We reached the NFL championship 4 times in 5 years from 1940 to 1945. So 1946 seemed to be the right time to start). So Greatest Generation and Boomers vs Millennials and Gen Z. Who had it worst? 1946 to 1975, Redskins were 167-206-20. A .441 winning %. 9 winning seasons only 1 Division Championship 1 SB appearance Playoffs were very different then so Its hard to compare. BUt 1972 was the only year they had a post season victory. 1992 - 2021 201-278-2 a .418 Winning % 9 Winnings seasons 4 Division titles 3 post seasons wins The current generation had 2 major "What if" moments. 1 -What if RG3 doesn't get hurt 2 -What if Alex Smith doesn't get hurt. The older Generation had at least 1 major "What if" moment What if Vince Lombardi doesn't get cancer (They had 14 straight losing seasons before his 1 year coaching, and had them a winning season). Prob more but it was before my time -So i don't really know. the older generation had some good years at that end with 4 straight playoff appearances and a SB appearance. The newer Generation was more spread out. The Redskins really went 36 seasons before they were considered a great team again with the older generation Will the newer generation have to wait longer? (Season 31 currently). Which generation had it worst?

So overall i think Wentz is a good QB and a upgrade. HOWEVER -IT was dumb to sign. Here is my question - What game last year did we lose that we would have won with Wentz vs Henickie? I cant think of any. MAYBE the dallas game at home? So basically we upgrade the QB position but to do that we cut our 2nd best OL (flowers), our best LB (Collins. He was Terrible at Safety but great once he took on the hybrid, mostly LB role), and Tim Settle and added nothing to our Defense. We did add some weapons on Offense - but we spent all our money to slightly improve a position that didn't really cost us games last year. Right now - If we had kept Flowers, Collins, Settle, and Henickie as starting, and brought in 1 FA on Defense (Either LB or DB) would we win more games, less games, or the same amount of games this year? Its only been 3 games but as of right now -I would think we would have been at LEAST the same, if not better.

I can't get over the gates to handle the "lines". DID THEY REALLY THINK HUNDARDS WOULD LINE UP??

I would LOVE to see how the team store looked this morning when they opened. Based on them getting ready last night, announcing extending hours this week, and them convincing themselves this was gonna be a big thing - I picture all the staff they could muster saying "HERE WE GO" and opening up the door and seeing one security guard walking in.

Wow. The hype video they did below is pretty good. They could have just played that. Instead they have DW just say it (we all knew anyway) and they have Wright gaslight us on how much it resonates with the fan base. https://twitter.com/Commanders/status/1488862704983068673?s=20&t=c7HnNihumptl6y5fZGSEgQ

My Memory served me well! Mosley missed a 39 yarder with 2 seconds left against green bay https://www.forbes.com/sites/robreischel/2019/12/07/game-to-remember-green-bay-packers-48-washington-redskins-47/?sh=220d66556a41 As for opener - you were right. But he did miss a 31 yarder with 9 mins left.

And both games included a missed fg late in game