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I think we really need to address CB next round. It’s hard to find good cornerbacks later than that. But if Dean is available or blue chip RB I’m cool with it. I would be slightly upset with Buffalo Nickel in round 2, because I feel like we would just be trying to address needs and ignoring value.

True but look at the guys that went after. Tons of talent. We are so far back in 2nd I’d consider trading out of it for more picks depending on who is left there when we pick. But I’d love to have a higher second and be in the driver’s seat.

Excellent post. I agree with you with the exception that I would take a 3rd this year for Payne. That pick should be a starter for 4 years and a long term win )if our personnel folks do their job) and I’ll take the downgrade in production from no Payne for 1 year (loss in the short term).

I’m hoping the run on DTs starts soon and a team with a late 2nd or 3rd doesn’t get their guy and trading for Payne is the back up plan. I would rather trade Payne today for a 2nd or 3rd than get a crappy comp pick in 2024. We are going to have to address DT depth in draft, FA, and/or UDFA regardless.

As they should be. It’s ****ing absurd. Did you see McVay’s (drunk) reaction? They we’re laughing because they scouted him as an option in the 3rd -4th round.

Mayhew said they have 2 tables they use for trades and one had the Saints ahead one had Commanders. He said most teams use 2 (even 3) different value charts. Also, this draft with all the Covid guys who went back to school last year is deeper and so I think they value they got was excellent.

It seems like Muma has been not getting a lot of love in the media recently, I don’t know if teams were lower on him. I feel strongly that we should stick to the board and not be dead set in filling the Buffalo nickel role next round, unless that player is BPA, which I think would be pretty unlikely based on the SS, undersized LB depth of the draft. I like this list. I would add some more CBs though.

I would love the pick. Ron talked about watching his top players performed against elite competition. And McCreary showed the **** out. If his arms were 2 inches longer he would have gone in the first, which is silly.

Gotta go BPA here. Maybe a G/OT or CB. I could see S/LB though. I have a feeling they “reach” and take best prospect to play Buffalo nickel vs BPA in round 2.

This song is hilarious

Dude has his own song! ”Greatest thing to come from Nazareth since Jesus” 😂

I’ve heard this, but why? For a WR, wouldn’t we be more concerned with long speed? Once they get off the line it’s about how they accelerate to top speed and run by people. A ridiculous 10 yard split seems like they have a really nice start, from a 3 point stance on the ground, like a track athlete. I think 3 cone is the best metric for WR and pretty much every position. Dotson didn’t perform well on that, though.

Highlights are sick, compared to Tyler Lockett, and a see a lot of Santana Moss’ game too. His quickness in space, playing big for his size, his leaping ability and contested catches are all fun to watch. I’m concerned with his ability to get off press, but if he can get better at that I like the pick after trading down.

I thought it was a Dresden Files reference-great series.

I think they would both be reaches at 11. I like Dotson at 16 better than Olave at 11.

Not trying to be a dick- but is Olave a good PR guy? I think of Santana as more shifty than Olave. Although they are definitely both track/speed guys.

****, you’re right. I’m still trying to trade him.

I’m actually a fan of that if the FO is low on Kyle Hamilton (feels better fits for Buffalo nickel later) and is concerned with Jameson injury. But I think I would just take Hamilton.

? He’s playing for us this year, we declined his option for next year.

With so much $ likely tied up in the Dline in the future it makes sense to get cheaper. They tried to sign Payne long term but he balked; I think he wants big money. If I can get a 3rd or multiple mid rounds picks I’m trading him.

I’m not your buddy, chief- just kidding. Olave is growing on me, I still like Drake London better.

I agree with you. But to play devil’s advocate, according to media some teams have 15 first round grades. If the commanders are one of them, 5 spots in second round is likely not a big deal.

If all those guys get picked in top 10 there will be better players than Olave available. A LT, a shutdown CB, etc. I don’t want to reach for WR. I do like Olave, I just think another player would be better at 11.

This is a pretty bad interior Dline class according to a lot of experts. I think if teams in late first are targeting one and don’t get him on day 1, I could see a good team who wants a starter right away trading a late 2nd. Probably more like a 3rd this year, which I would take. You have to get value for players before they leave and we can sign a replacement level DT, there are a lot on the market. They won’t be as good as Payne, but I’m taking the picks. This isn’t a super bowl roster anyway.

I was super frustrated when I read about this but piecing together some stuff makes me understand it more. 1. We talked about signing him to a long term deal- we obviously are very very far apart on that. I’m going to guess he wants Jon Allen money or more (18 mil a year) which would pay him in the top 5 DTs in the league. Even if he is worth that I would question the idea of tying that much money into the DL when we have Young and Sweat who will command big $. This is why I’ve been interested in trading Payne. 2. We value him somewhere between Settle and Allen, so LTD worth between 4-18 mil a year. Let’s say we think he’s worth 10 mil a year. Basically, if he’s asking for a ludicrous amount on a LTD, we need to let him go to FA and another team can overpay. Pass rushing DTs like Allen get paid, run stuffing NT don’t. He clearly sees himself as a pass rusher and we don’t think he has that ability, thus the impasse. Trade him if you can.