Darth Tater

In the NFC Least, we will have a chance to win the division until we hit 10 losses and maybe even 11.

Of the 7 2014 coaching hires, only Zimmer is still a head coach. Gruden went 1-5 in his first year and got 5+ years. Gibbs was 1-4 before he got his second win in his first year coaching under Devil Snyder. Lovie Smith is a decent guy and a decent coach, he only got two at Tampa.

Sometimes you whiff but at least on the whiff he made effort. I did not see it as half-assed but just lack of ability, which may be worse. On the first, only reason is something like you guess

Dan Orvlosky got upset at Wentz saying he was the only reason that Team was in the game. NO. Wentz was arguably the primary reason that the Eagles had a game too lose.

The majority owner is why Jack would have stayed coach in that alternate reality. Hell, Jack almost didn't get fired in reality and 5 games into 1981, JKC was really thinking he may have made the wrong decision.

Thing about the 1979 loss is that was what would probably save Beathard. If we go 11-5 and playoffs, along with a sweep of Dallas, Pardee probably gets a benefit of the doubt in 1980 and Beathard loses the political battle that cast a long shadow over 1980.

All Beathards drafts after 1981 were mediocre. While 1983 did get us a HOF and a pretty good bookend DE, pretty much the rest was a total bust. While you could argue that much of Beathards decline in drafting was due to the emerging political power of Gibbs (Bobby sure did and that was much of his argument with Pardee), his future drafts were nothing to write home about either.

If you look at the drafts from 1989 thru 1992, it was not that we did not try to build through the draft, we just failed to find the right people. 1983 saw 5 picks as total busts, including one we had spent capital for and another that became a journey backup. One of the picks that did work well was available due to the USFL. 1984 draft saw only one guy that indirectly contributed big. 1986 was the year we sold the farm to draft a guy who never played for us

Ain't the LBs who had to worry when guys like Manley and Mann did it in their rookie years. Got lots of guys who wouldn't even try to return punts. In 1983, I think versus Dallas, the return man actually ran away from the ball once.

Charles Mann also.

Don't know how many people might know why but I was wondering if Chase can play gunner on punt teams?

I'd also argue for about mid February of 1993. Sometimes I think that was the day I died and went to hell. I was driving into work when I passed an ambulance and some other emergency vehicles around a wrecked car and a body bag. My car at the time was the same make, model and color as the wrecked car. Got to work and a lot of people were angry at me for not showing up but also seemed to ignore me.

In a way, you could put an exact date, almost an exact time. November 10, 1996 in the 4th quarter of the Cards game, 1996. Up to that game, it was looking like our rebuild was on schedule. It kind of mirrored Dallas from 1988 (Landry's last year to 1991).

For football, consistent speed, the ability to run fast even after you've been beat on all day and the ability to stay at speed throughout your route are probably more important than your absolute speed.

Good point. In 1989 or 1990, we really needed a 1981-type draft. We were set up for one in 1992 but targeted Desmond instead. We needed a new offensive line cornerstone. While none in the top 15 (we had the 6) picked in 1992 were as good as Joe Jacoby, Bob Whitfield started 165 games for the team that drafted him and was around until 2006, Ray Roberts started 116 games and Searcy started 111. We would then be able to get Pickens or Smith if we wanted a wr and possibly pair them with Mcardell.

The 1992 was the draft that confirmed my growing suspicion that Joe Gibbs was a targeter. Yes, a friend of mine who played for Gibbs (1986-1992) felt Gibbs retired because he did not want to go through another rebuild (1981, 1985, 1989) and the core those rebuilds centered around was now about to age out.

If I wanted to put a single year, I'd argue for 1992 as the beginning of our current down cycle. Last up cycle went from about 1971 to the SB after the 1991 season. We pretty much backed into the playoffs in 1992,

Rice took almost no time to develop. In his rookie year, he was third on the team in receptions and averaged almost 19 yards per catch. Remember, this was for a team that went to the SB the year before so already had its starting WR pair (albeit Solomon was old and Clark was in his late prime) and threw a lot to its RB anyway. In his second year, he was all-pro, was statistically the best WR in the NFL and only had a few better seasons.

Depending on injury and trade ops and assuming we keep 4 at DE, I think the first 3 DEs are as locked in as you can get. Young, Sweat and Kerrigan. The battle is DE4. A DE5 may also have a shot if one impresses.

Another agreement. If he'd been a great talent guy, we'd not have fallen off the cliff in 1993, remember after Bobby left, we really never refreshed like 1981 and 1985. Gibbs was great at getting max-effort with what he had, realizing guys strengths or weaknesses quickly (including those of his opponents), game planning and other parts of coaching. Further, I always thought he was a bit of a targeter and thought too strongly in terms of needs when it came to the draft and FA. He had Beathard give up 2-1s for a guy who only played 3 seasons for us

In 1991 had 5 plays gone against us, we'd not even had made the playoffs. In 2018, had the refs made the right call at the end of the Texans game, we'd have been in a win and in situation in our last game. Had the refs made the right call in the playoff game between NO and LA in the playoff game, we almost certainly would have had a Brady versus Brees SB.

You may here about settling for this guy years later if the guy they claim they settled on was JAG and/or the guy they claim they targeted but missed becomes elite. Even then, hind sight changes the story.

That is sort of how most people saw Terry Mac at this time last year. A special teams demon and a 4, maybe a 3, wr.

If he is a Docston 2.0 then he is a great pick.