Renegade7

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  1. Sure ya'll remember one of the bigger debates we had in recent memory was what to do about Garcon and DJax being FA in the same offseason: I voted both at first but admit I later waffled and went with neither. I like a lot of people felt that at that age, we'd be overpaying them based on their previous production, not what they would be doing going forward at that point their careers. I've felt up to this point that letting them both leave was the right move, not replacing that production was the mistake. When I looked at how Garcon and DJax were doing with their respective teams last year, I felt vindicated, even if it was obvious our offense missed them. This year, DJax has more yards and touchdowns then all our WRs combined right now. Not a single WR has more receiving yards then Adrian F'n Peterson right now. I look at what DJax's Cap Hit is seeing as we felt it would be too much: 2017 - $12.5 Million 2018 - $11 Million 2019 - $10 Million Me, I would do that in a heartbeat right now considering the space we have left and what this is starting to look like. I get wanting to have a cushion so we can give team friendly extensions to our younger players (really love that we do that), but considering Richardson's cap hit will be $8.5 millioin, $10 million, and $10 million his last three years, it feels like we looked for a deal to eventually be worth what we or maybe others felt DJax is now. We did that for a WR that's had more then 300 yards receiving only ONCE in his career. Now I get it, its week 2. I'm probably jumping the gun. But considering how desperate we look today to get something close to a playmaker or WR that can at least get open consistently, I've changed my mind on whether letting him go was the right move. It isn't that I don't expect Doctson or Richardson to be good WRs, I just have zero expectations of them being great ones or the type that people have to gameplan for. DJax looks like he's still got it, and I looked at 2019 Free Agents and don't see a lot of options to say "lets overspend for a legit #1 if we have to". We drafted a WR in the first round thinking we were good, if draft another, we obviously are not.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    I haven't watched them play yet, the highlight are jus him getting open and Fitz getting him the ball. Alex could do that. I don't think what Fitz is doing matters, Winston will be back in before he cools off, them we see if that offense can keep it up. The point being, he's still flying by people and catching bombs. For the people that stand by the decisions because of the money, would y'all not give DJax the contract the Bucs gave him? It's a valid question on where did the money go, we walked into this season with close $10 million in cap space.
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    Booing - at the Stadium

    What if you pay $400-$500 to sit in front row jus to watch them totally not give a ****? Jus sit there and eat it, kids jus looking at you and it's cold as ****? Are we looking at this from the perspective of people watching at home or people who are actually in the stadium still giving money towards an investment that basically never bears fruit? The Vinny Stadium Sign moment is exactly what came to mind when people started booing at halftime and I could see much of the top ring was still empty. That was to get this entire franchise's attention , not jus the players .
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    Sorry about that, I don't think I took it the way you meant it. I know I have no intent on starting a new thread on something else I'm upset about every week, I jus also know someone else will and there really isn't another place to it (extremeskins, remember? : )
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    Random Thought Thread

    If you were more specific about what you disagreed with I could've given a more specific response, I can't read your mind, either. I don't need anyones attention when stating my opinion, if someone responds to me, I respond back, that's the pattern, full stop.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    Considering we were right on the line last year, DJax probably does push us right up to maybe over the line for a wildcard. Why does every discussion on players we debate on getting come back to "do they take us over the top or make us a playoff team"? It's a 53 man roster, talent is accumulative, we shouldn't be looking at these moves in a vacuum. We're in win now mode without win now talent, asking DJax outs us over the to is the wrong question because he's only one player. His contract doesn't look like it was so unreasonable that we couldn't get other players, and better believe we need more players if DJax caliber to get in the conversation. You got a lot of nerve talking about fan morale right now. If you got some good news to build after that loss, go start your own thread. I already said this thread may be early, but I enjoy talking with y'all about this and wanted to see if anyone felt the same way. Obviously we do.
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    Random Thought Thread

    Can't agree on everything, you think government shouldn't make sure everyone should have a last resort option if government is telling them they have to leave? I know plenty if people in norfolk that would be screwed because they don't have means to drive or get a hotel , let alone family out the area. We were all over Haiti and the Indian Ocean Tsunami, looking at New Orleans and Puerto Rico, how am I supposed to feel about that?
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    Random Thought Thread

    Masters starts in October, need to feel out that workload before making a commitment. Forcing one out of town trip a month, like the idea of early November, we overdue.
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    Random Thought Thread

    Ya, most of my NC family and peeps are in Charlotte area, but checked in a couple of them anyway. In my eye, if government issues a mandatory evacuation, they need to be responsible for making sure everyone that doesn't have somewhere to go or way how to get out does. We can go back and forth on the role of government, this one I feel is non-negotiable considering we are a superpower. Our international response to natural disasters should never look better then our responses to American territories.
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    Random Thought Thread

    Same, and this is where the government should be stepping in so we don't have to make choices like that. Katrina new orleans changed their mind on busing people out in mass and time they realized super dome fiasco was that, buses were underwater.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    Just because fans don't like someone doesn't mean he's a cancer, the people in the locker room determine that, not us. Exactly what were about to watch happen. I was fine letting him go because of the money and was underutilized here, not because I thought he'd fall off a cliff by end of an extension. I think we all fell for the idea that that money would go to Cousins and it didn't, many of jus made extra excuses to help justify letting him leave, we were reaching. Another lesson I learned is to not let a play elite at anything just leave with a clear proven alternative. You don't really replace DJax when he's arguable the best at what he does.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    This times 1000x. Fine didn't want to give to Jackson, but then we had the nerve to give it to someone who wasn't nearly as good to try to replace him? That is next level stupid, id rather have given that money to Jackson then Richardson, even if you asked me that question in the offseason we let him leave. Define "leave him"? At what point won't he be one of the best deep threats in the NFL? Will it be before or after his contract with the Bucs expires?
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    No m, but the mistake we made with all if them is that we didn't need them enough to try to keep them. That basically was the offense that got a playoff berth, and they all walked out the door while we claimed we di as good it better without them, and no plan B. Discussion forum, btw, expected us to discuss the suck when we suck.
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    Booing - at the Stadium

    Super Bowl winners typically have a winning record on the road, and you know why? Because they are good enough and disciplined enough to win in an environment where pretty much no one wants them to succeed. If you pay to go to that game, you have to me the right to tell them how you feel, especially if your close enough you know they can hear you. Good teams win on the road, bad teams lose at home and make excuses for it, like blaming the fans for not being loud enough. Last I checked, I'm not on the roster, so why am I getting blamed? Crowd noise has the most effect on the snap count of the opposing team, good teams practice and prepare for that. I was at the Colts game, I gave them my support, yelled for when what I felt they needed, boo'd for them not wanting to win as much as we did as fans who pay out the ass to see them play in person, and numb once I realized we were at the 5 minute mark and moving the ball like we needed 1 touchdown instead of 2. From my perspective, what happened in that colts game from a fans perspective isn't really meant for the team, we love the team. That was meant for Allen and Snyder. People want to blame fans running from Florence, doesn't matter, that whole thing was so ugly Front Office went into overdrive to address the WR position. Coincidence?
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    Random Thought Thread

    I hope not, not on this one.
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    The Own3d Thread.(Keep it clean)

    Nailed it. When your kids try to help out because the gas is off again:
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    Tighten up those Ends: It's a TE thread......

    Me, too, brother, me too.
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    Random Thought Thread

    I've tried to avoid getting into the middle of this one, ya'll still going strong. I can't pick saving an animal over a human, and if you can't handle the responsibility of having an animal, you shouldn't have one. It's not always easy when you barely have the have the resources to take care of yourself, but if you love them like you supposed to you wouldn't do that, I don't care how much money you have or don't have.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    @skins island connection I don't think bringing up Josh Gordon is a hijack, it goes to the point of the thread of failing to try to replace him and what he brings to the offense. Someone like that doesn't need 100 catches to make a difference, we've seen that, he's done that to us, I'm feeling kinda sick knowing we have to play them this year. Ugh, and I just re-confirmed, its in Tampa.
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    Redskins receiving corp is beginning to shape up

    Unleash the Dragon! F it, I'm going deep! Chicks dig the long ball, ye'id know?
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    Tighten up those Ends: It's a TE thread......

    Like I said, I think Reed is fine and we just aren't getting him the ball. I edited my post for clarity, Cheifs are notorious for having powerful offenses that didn't have great WRs this century. From Priest Holmes and Tony Gonzales to Travis Kelce and Kareem Hunt. Cheifs now have Hill, and I believe that's a reason Mahomes is able to go off like he's doing (we don't have that talent so can't expect those results, but we do have Reed). I'll be back after the Green Bay game, he has to have a big game, and if he does or doesn't, one of us is right.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    What we did to the WR core was unforgivable. What we did to CB I'm not sure about yet because Dunbar is playing almost as good as Norman is (still hate losing Fuller, agreed it would be super deep with Breeland and Fuller, but I'm not a GM). QB, the more I think about it, we try to give our best players team friendly deals and at some point that just wasn't going to happen. I will say that I agree we screwed up all 4, just different ways and not sure how bad it is yet. I want Bruce gone, we've put a lot of work into resturcturing the Front Office since the Cheerleader fiasco, I'm not ready to blow the whole thing up. Edit: The lesson I'd say from the Cousins fiasco is if at any point we think we have the guy and can look him up for less then those insane $100 million contracts potential gets you, you take it and don't look back. Maaaaaan, this is what I thought, too, that we were going to need the money and didn't give it to him either. Unreal.
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    Next Day Thread: Redskins vs. Colts

    Wow, I literally just started a thread about this. Talk about regret with a Capital T. You don't have to, but Blink twice if you heard it through the grapevine.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    @KillBill26 DJax is one of those players where his speed is just so outrageous that a drop off isn't going to happen. Saying he's not as fast as he used to be doesn't matter, there still aren't that many that are faster then him. For me, that and his elite ability to adjust to deep balls thrown, he's the perfect #2 WR. I wish we coulda used him in the slot and on Punt Returner, which is another reason I was fine letting him leave. This now just feels like we were idiots, didn't make the most of him, and felt we could just find someone else to do something like that. Since he left we've been talking about a player that could replace what DJax could do. This year its Richardson. To me, that speaks volumes to this topic.
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    Was Letting DJax Leave via FA a Mistake???

    That's tough, because what he brought in regards to defenses being a afraid of him made up for that in my opinion. It was first time in a while we really had something like that and haven't anything close to that yet. Saying we weren't winning, man, there was a lot of factors to that. As a piece of the puzzle instead of supposed to be saving the franchise, he's perfect, and that's what he's doing in Tampa. Evans is their #1.