ScottAH87 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I dont see a poll yet so i thought i'd start one. We've heard the news and and know a bit about it now. So vote and then explain why you voted, include your thought on the ups and downs of the trade. i like the trade mostly because it was needed. I think we did a good job of not hesitating and getting the job done. i will miss our second rounder next year but with the way they handled the draft this year we could potentionally get a second round back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balls City Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Bottom line: Jason is a stud. We lost 2 on the first day, and we needed depth. We lost a 2nd rounder - but I can swallow that to shore up the hole. But not only did we fix our situation, I personally think we made it better. Yes, the age thing is pressing on my mind... but I'll wait to see how he plays this year before I make any assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 He is 33 years old and we gave up a 2nd rounder for him. Hopefully this team will surprise me and [rove me wrong but stiil think it is an 8-8 team at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 needs more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzaddict1983 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I can't vote. I don't LOVE this deal, but I def. don't dislike this deal. I think with the situation we were put in, it was a smart move. I believe JT jas at minimum 3 good years left being he has taken really good care of himself. And he is an A.C type of DE. Plays harder and stronger than his size says he should. So I'm excited, but not in love with this deal until I see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 He is 33 years old and we gave up a 2nd rounder for him. Hopefully this team will surprise me and [rove me wrong but stiil think it is an 8-8 team at best I agree :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan4life Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I am REAL glad I got Season tickets these year!!!!!! HAIL REDSKINS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhouse Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes, the age thing is pressing on my mind... but I'll wait to see how he plays this year before I make any assumptions. Don't forget that Philip Daniels, the man we were going to have as our starting Left DE, is 35. I think we actually improved that line by adding a proven pro-bowler. A. Carter + J. Taylor will have to be accounted for on every down....something we didn't have last year. This entire situation in my opinion is a blessing in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9_to_42_td Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 The odds are in our favor that one of these guys will work out. Hopefully, he has a few sacks left in him. He has proven himself in the past which wasn't that long ago, we have yet to see how our 2nd rounders will turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 At first I wasn't crazy. I felt much better about giving up a second round pick than a first. After analyzing the impact, I think that IF AND ONLY IF Taylor plays out the remaining two years of his contract at the same high level he plays, than it is a good deal. He will keep the team at a competitive level and help makeup for what I think is a thin secondary with Rogers still out. I also think it will by the team time to HAVE to draft another DE for another year so we can also focus on LB and DB, two areas which I have great concern over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balls City Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Don't forget that Philip Daniels, the man we were going to have as our starting Left DE, is 35. I think we actually improved that line by adding a proven pro-bowler. A. Carter + J. Taylor will have to be accounted for on every down....something we didn't have last year. This entire situation in my opinion is a blessing in disguise. Ah - exactly why I love this forum and decided to join. Good point on Daniels being 35... I'll miss his leadership. (And thanks for keeping it clean... I've seen lots of flaming in recent months). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 It was an upgrade, even without the injuries. Without the injuries, most of us would have said not necessary. With the injury and depth a major concern, we absolutely had to pull the trigger on the deal, and I think it's fair on all sides. Maybe we'll look back and wish for Calais Campbell over Sleepy in the draft, but with out situation as it is it was the best thing we could have done, and I'm REALLY glad we were able to do it without giving up the 1st rounder Miami had been looking for earlier. For those who think we should have gone another route, what route did you have in mind? Is anyone else on the market? Are there any other routes besides praying for Erasmus to get healthy/effective or bringing up someone who would otherwise be on the practice squad and hoping for the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 He is 33 years old and we gave up a 2nd rounder for him. Hopefully this team will surprise me and [rove me wrong but stiil think it is an 8-8 team at best Then you should have had us as a 6-10 team prior to this trade. Jason Taylor is good for a couple of wins. Many people here claim the Skins' woes are due to their lack of a pass rush. We now have arguably one of the top 3 pass rushes in the NFL. We needed to make this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Hog Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 This trade works if we are a team on the brink of a special season. We aren't that team. Lack of depth at key positions, a 1st year head coach, a young quarterback with a new offensive scheme, injury concerns at key positions, etc. Our playoff appearances in recent years also prove that this team is still a long way behind other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuppajones Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 How could anyone not like this trade, this was a great deal. Taylor and Carter will combine for at least 20 sacks this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhouse Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Ah - exactly why I love this forum and decided to join. Good point on Daniels being 35... I'll miss his leadership. (And thanks for keeping it clean... I've seen lots of flaming in recent months). What's the point of flaming someone on here. We're all just fans expressing our opinions on something we probably have limited knowledge on. After all, we all cheer together when the skins do well and flip a **** and point fingers when they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balls City Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 What's the point of flaming someone on here. We're all just fans expressing our opinions on something we probably have limited knowledge on. Wait a second - you mean post count doesn't equal football IQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-bomb Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Wait a second - you mean post count doesn't equal football IQ? :cheers: :applause: :notworthy You just ruined it for the ones that thought it did!!!!!:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 we had to do it. JT is an immediate upgrade. He is in tip top shape and is a beast of a pass rusher. Time will tell, but at least we didn't give up a first. I like this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Hog Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 How could anyone not like this trade, this was a great deal. Taylor and Carter will combine for at least 20 sacks this year. And we still will do no better than a first round playoff exit at best. The way I see it is like this...in a big game with everything on the line, we've come up short more often than not. A Jason Taylor at the end of his career will have a limited amount of impact on a middle of the road team. Unfortunately, we are not in the upper tier of teams in the NFL. I personally define success in terms of Super Bowl wins. I'm not willing to lower my standards of success and say, "Well, Jason Taylor helped us make the playoffs." Big deal. 17 years later, I'd hope that we'd be a little better than a team that can compete for a wild card spot, provided that everything falls into place in terms of player performance, learning curves, and health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_K Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yet another old player pickup. /sighs When will we go the youth route and stop taking players in the +30 catagory ? How many years does he have left in his tank at 33 ? I guess with Daniels down we needed a body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhouse Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I guess with Andre Carter down we needed a body It's Philip Daniels that's down, not A. Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Why do polls always have the two extremes as answers? I like the trade, it was something that was necessary, but I don't love it. I would have preferred Daniels to be healthy and play this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_K Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 It's Philip Daniels that's down, not A. Carter ;-) yes thanks .. changed it .. read the story and for some reason AC's name stuck in my mind when i posted .. apprecaite the correction my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebody509 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 needs more options.Agreed...Need a middle ground option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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