flyingtiger1013 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Schweeeeet. Too bad his aim was off, though. http://www.nbc4.com/news/4493614/detail.html LAYHILL, Md. -- Authorities said a burglar apparently got more than he bargained for when the would-be victim shot him. According to Montgomery County police, it happened late Monday morning in Layhill, where they believe the suspect robbed two houses. Lt. Eric Burnett said that shortly before 10:30 a.m., residents came home and found a man outside. When they entered the home, they realized they had been robbed. They saw the man get away in a red sport utility vehicle. About 15 minutes later, police got another call. This time, a homeowner confronted a man inside the home and opened fire, hitting the intruder in the leg. The intruder took off in a red SUV with police chasing him. Police stopped the car at Layhill and Chester Mill roads, where the man was arrested. He was taken to a hospital, and his condition is not available. There's also no word on whether the homeowner will face any charges. Charges? Hell, give him a medal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Oh no, I'm sure lawyers are lined up outside the hospital. If the burglar wasn't armed, this will not end well for the homeowner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by herrmag Oh no, I'm sure lawyers are lined up outside the hospital. If the burglar wasn't armed, this will not end well for the homeowner. Doesn't matter if he was armed or not, the homeowner will be fine. If the burglar was in his home, he's a target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by codeorama Doesn't matter if he was armed or not, the homeowner will be fine. If the burglar was in his home, he's a target. I seem to remember a case about 10 years ago where a homeowner shot a burglar. The burglar ended up suing him. Whether or not he actually shot him in the house, I'm not so sure about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborneskins Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by codeorama Doesn't matter if he was armed or not, the homeowner will be fine. If the burglar was in his home, he's a target. The key word here is "IF". It is perfectly legal as long as they can prove that he didn't invite him in. I am sure that some lawyer will try to say that he was invited in the house, he just had to come in through the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 if that burglar actually got any money from the home owner, it would be a perfect example of what is wrong with America today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Flames Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 here are my thoughts on this, whether the man was armed or not, the homeowner had every right to shoot him, cause believe you me, if that happened in my house, i wouldn't hesitate to shoot, and i would also aim for the legs or feet, unless they had visible signs of a weapon, then i would shoot to kill. Nobody is going to put my family in danger and get away with it, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtiger1013 Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 "and i would also aim for the legs or feet, unless they had visible signs of a weapon, then i would shoot to kill." Always shoot to kill or don't shoot at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I would love for someone to try and rob my house. If my dog doesn't get him, the owner would. Granny would bust out the 12 gauge and light his arse up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 gotta put a sign up.....Forget the Dog, Beware of Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by flyingtiger1013 Charges? Hell, give him a medal! I'm thinking marksmanship lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 IF the burgler was in the home is the key question. IF the homeowner shot someone that was in his yard, then he's an idiot. IF the burgler was inside the home, the homeowner is fine. Shoot to kill, then the body is laying in the living room, there's no question if he was in or out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Let me clarify also, my info is based on Virginia, other places could vary, but I attened a gun class and the legal issues were a huge part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 It depends on the laws of your state. I can tell you from experience, I had a man break into my home 1 night, I got my gun and confronted him, after I realized he was drunk and was not a threat to me, I just called the police. I was told by the police that if I had shot him, I would be in jail. Welcome to NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by flyingtiger1013 "and i would also aim for the legs or feet, unless they had visible signs of a weapon, then i would shoot to kill." Always shoot to kill or don't shoot at all. Why? I'm not going to stand in front of God and say, "Yeah I killed him on purpose because he had my lamp and meant to leave with it" If I can I'm going to make sure everyone leaves alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by Destino Why? I'm not going to stand in front of God and say, "Yeah I killed him on purpose because he had my lamp and meant to leave with it" If I can I'm going to make sure everyone leaves alive. Des, Just so you know for your own legal sake, IF you pull the trigger, you had better aim center mass. You shouldn't BE SHOOTING unless you plan on 'stopping the attack'(this is what you'll tell the investigators) I mean, if you think the guy isn't a huge threat(a mistake to make assumptions, I think) then you shouldn't be pulling a trigger. If you DO pull the trigger, it's because you're under attack or threat of attack. Handguns are not man-stoppers. If you want to survive, you better aim center-of-mass and get a Central Nervous System shot. Or use a shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtiger1013 Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by Destino Why? I'm not going to stand in front of God and say, "Yeah I killed him on purpose because he had my lamp and meant to leave with it" If I can I'm going to make sure everyone leaves alive. Exactly. If that is the case, don't shoot then. I was stating that IF you should choose to fire your weapon, shoot to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 flyingtiger, Remember--"shoot to stop." That the person will likely die is immaterial.(Remember the legal nuances there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin Des, Just so you know for your own legal sake, IF you pull the trigger, you had better aim center mass. You shouldn't BE SHOOTING unless you plan on 'stopping the attack'(this is what you'll tell the investigators) I mean, if you think the guy isn't a huge threat(a mistake to make assumptions, I think) then you shouldn't be pulling a trigger. If you DO pull the trigger, it's because you're under attack or threat of attack. Handguns are not man-stoppers. If you want to survive, you better aim center-of-mass and get a Central Nervous System shot. Or use a shotgun. Exactly, great post. However, SOME handguns are man-stoppers and I have one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtiger1013 Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 I will remain living by the creed that it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan44 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by codeorama Doesn't matter if he was armed or not, the homeowner will be fine. If the burglar was in his home, he's a target. Well, we are talking about MONTGOMERY COUNTY, MD. here, people. One of the most liberal counties in the country. They will find a way to charge the homeowner. I use to live in the Layhill area, and believe me, it's getting really bad there. This does not surprise me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
National Defense Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Code--like was stated before, the laws vary significantly by state. About 10 years ago a Louisiana man shot and killed a prowler who was on his porch by shooting THROUGH his front door--didn't even give him a chance. turned out that the prowler was a chinese exchange student who was lost and trying to get directions. Apparently, it is not illegal to do this in LA, and there were no changes filed. (although it was a bit of a diplomatic incident) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 It definately varies by state. I have 3 young kids. Someone breaks into my house and they die. I don't take time to try and figure out if it's a drunk that's managed to somehow get by my locked and deadbolted doors. If you are in my house uninvited, you intend harm. You will be shot dead. There won't be any conversations with any lawyers about what your intent was after the fact. They can guess at your motive all they want, but you won't be providing any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 In Montgomery county he can be charged for not allowing the burglar his fair shair of the house.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Originally posted by Thiebear In Montgomery county he can be charged for not allowing the burglar his fair shair of the house.. That only applies when the robber is an “undocumented resident” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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