goldenster95 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Interesting stuff . . . agree? . . . disagree? . . . QUARTERBACK Danny Wuerffel, Redskins. He's underrated as a player and hasn't been given the opportunity he deserves. But this is as much an endorsement of Steve Spurrier and his offense as it is of Wuerffel. If Wuerffel plays, Spurrier and he will click. :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 maybe, but i can't see him playing over Matthews, unless he's hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J33Edwards Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I said that months ago...and I like my opinion more then Dan Pompei's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 This guy wants to be the solo writer who says Danny will be a winner. Then he can get all the props. I see Shane and Sage doing better than Danny. I see Danny retiring soon and going into coaching with Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J33Edwards Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I am optimistic about Danny being able to get the job done....However, like you guys say the addition of Shane is going to make it hard for him to even get a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Hopefully there is a season ending injury (wink wink) that places Waffle or Ramsey on IR because hate to see the better performer probably Sage getting the shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Didn't Spurrier say during the last mini camp, Sage would be the starter? Not that we signed Matthews, I don't see how that improves Danny's chances of starting. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement from Spurrier. If he does start, I think he would do good. I know him and Spurrier would click. But, would we be better with Shane starting? Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Sage is the number one guy right now, and Steve seems to like him over everybody, including Weurfell and Matthews. Danny is as good as gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I have to believe Matthews heads into preseason as the presumptive starter. If he doesn't, it better be because Sage or Danny are simply lighting it up all summer, and not because Shane isn't being the solid, experienced type we brought him in to be. If Sage really, really outplays Shane in the 5 pretend games, it'll certainly be interesting to see just how ballsy SS is ... he starts Sage Rosenfels in the season opener, and the man truly walks bowlegged. My money says Shane Matthews starts against Arizona, with Sage having earned himself title of Legit Backup. Danny will likely be gone. Patrick will be modeling sideline wear. And we'll hope like hell synergy comes quickly. Not sure the board can handle another 0-5 start. We might need mass therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I think Spurrier is playing a mind game with the media (like Peter King). If he cuts Danny at the end of training camp and makes most likely Shane the starter with Sage as the backup. Then all the sudden Patrick isn't pressed to perform right away and Spurrier proved the masses wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchogs Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 the only break out danny w is going to have is him breaking out of the nfl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Ok I got it what we do is trade Sam Shade and Shane Mathews and Danny Wueffel to the Browns for Tim Couch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Wuerffel is another in the long line of college superstars that just didn't find a home in the NFL. Remember Archie Griffin? Gino Torretta? Andre Ware? Rick Mirer? Tony Mandarich? Brian Bosworth? I know it is hard for some people to comprehend but Danny just isn't going to turn into Joe Montana or Roger Staubach. It would be a nice fairy tale but...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 We'd all like to think Danny will be like Rich Gannon and just bloom late but I'm with Bulldoggy dog here, I think it just ain't gonna happen. :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 There are a maximum of 32 break-out qbs. Now eliminate teams that will probably not have a qb that needs a break-out year (like St Louis). I guess that's brings us down to about 20 teams. Your working with about 1 in 20 odds. How does Pomp think we'll do? If Danny starts and we go .500, he could still make a strong case he was right :laugh: I'd just select the player with the highest probablity of breaking-out. Heck, if your wrong I bet most people won''t remember and if your right...well you probably turn that into bragging rights (maybe negotiation points) until next season. Its not like he's going to loose $ and if he's right, well he could make $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Skins Fan Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 How's Spurrier's arm these days? Boy, it would be fun to see Spurrier direct his own no-huddle Fun 'n' Gun offense. The guy won the Heisman as QB, played a while in the NFL -- let's run him on out there. Sure, he's probably lost some zip on his passes. But Wuerffel never had zip to begin with, and Matthews isn't much an upgrade. And any QB not named Spurrier is just taking crib notes from the master. Why not have the master play QB? :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 it was pretty funny when ESPN started its TV coverage of minicamps with a picture of Spurrier throwing the ball and the comment was made that Spurrier is indeed the best quarterback in camp for the Skins. and that was before Matthews arrived.................... NOW we KNOW things are going to get better, right? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W&M Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Bulldog, You list a lot of players that did well in college but didn't make it the pros. Several of those players (Bosworth, Mandrich, Ware, Shuler, etc) bare no relation to Weurfell, because they were mistakenly thought to be franchise players. But I think you found the one player that is an exact match to Weufell ... and that's Gino Toretta. Gino was a horrible pro-prospect, that only exceeled because of the system and surrunding talent ... and that was painfully obvious to all NFL teams, which is why he was selected in the 7th round. Similarly, Weufell was a horrible pro-prospect, and if not for Dikta's ridiculous reach (drafting Danny in the 4th), there is a good chance Danny would have gone undrafted. No one ever thought Danny was a pro-prospect, and I think he was rated as having the worst mechanics and weakest arm of all QB's that were drafted in the year. Ginno was no different. Danny is just a scrub trying to survive another year. We can't really call him a "fallen star" because he was never expected to get off the ground in the first place. In the end, I think Danny's best move is to hang around the league another 2 years, learn what he can, and then transition to a QB coach ... much like Kubiak, who also sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyskinsfan Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 To give you an idea of how hard it is for Danny Wuerffel, according to Ramsey, he's completed 9 straight passes in this week's camp. Ramsey can't even get a round of throws right now. This tells me, Spurrier's doing all he can to help one of those QB's along (he aint saying). Matthews, I think isn't the one. So between Sage and Wuerffel, somebody's needing so many reps or chances, that Ramsey can't get a warmup. Another option is SS is making sure his vets are getting a look see, as much as possible, so no one QB will cause a huge drop off, if the other is injured or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Yep, I also saw the Pompei article and wrote a rebuttal of sorts. I basically said that we skins fans think that either Sage or Shane will prob be the opening day starter and waffle-boy probably hits the streets. I also made arguments for Smooty, LaVar and Jansen for "breakout" seasons. Yeah, Yeah, I know you can probably make an argument that both Jansen and Arrington have already "made it" but I'll take the opportunity to send some props out for our boys whenever the opportunity presents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidyee Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Given the position you drafted Ramsey you have to believe that Shane/Sage is the starter, but next year every opportunity will be there for Ramsey to bid for starter or backup position. By Ramsey's third or fourth year he should be starting or else you will have wasted a draft pick in today's salary cap NFL. There isn't that much time nowadays to evaluate talent and get your money's worth. The pressure is on to get the young ones on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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