HeavyHitta31 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by bubba9497 Jay Novacheck doesn't hold any NFL TE records that I know of I didnt say he did, but he was a 5 time all-pro and never had a season close to what Witten has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I'll take Gates over Witten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNatsFan Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by HeavyHitta31 I didnt say he did, but he was a 5 time all-pro and never had a season close to what Witten has done. No problem. You live in Cowboyland. We thought you were referring to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six4g Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by HeavyHitta31 You cant lead with your helmet kid :doh: What picture are you looking at? Doesn't look like he's in the act of launching himself at your beloved Troy. Only a boyz fan would think that was illegal. By the way, it's been a very long time since someone called me kid. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddogCT Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 OVEERRATED.......That guy mailed it in against Maryland when he was at Tenn...no character. You'll see. He'll mail it in again at some point. That hit was pure and inocent as the driven snow. Nova..who? If you want to compare Witten to great tight ends...the LAST team you use is DALLAS...Use the Browns, or KC or San Diego or the GIANTS....you see Bavaro was a man. Witten aint even close. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Gates and Gonzalez are on another level....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyHitta31 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Witten is just molesting the Giants Defense tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadicSkinFan Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by HeavyHitta31 You cant lead with your helmet kid :doh: This is too damn funny. A guy that refers to Roy Williams in his handle talking about leading with the helmet. Or illegal hits for that matter. WOW... the irony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlinginSammy HOF '63 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 *yawn* enjoy the offseason like us. Yours begins in 2 minutes....after going backwards by three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFul Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by SlinginSammy HOF '63 *yawn* enjoy the offseason like us. Yours begins in 2 minutes....after going backwards by three games. That's fine, two more wins over the skins helps make it a little better. Maybe you guys can win one again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlinginSammy HOF '63 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 *edit* four game slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Yeah, It's good he was there, noone else seemed to want to catch the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Witten's not the game's best tight end. If you want to see the best, look no further than Kansas City. Gates in San Diego isn't far behind. I think it's fair, and realistic, to consider Witten as the league's third best -- and the NFC's best -- tight end, but not the best in the entire league. Witten finishes the season second in the league in catches and yards among tight ends, and fourth in touchdowns. Not bad for a second-year player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I will give Witten this, unlike Shockey, Witten got better in his second year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasInDC Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by Dale Witten's not the game's best tight end. If you want to see the best, look no further than Kansas City. Gates in San Diego isn't far behind. I think it's fair, and realistic, to consider Witten as the league's third best -- and the NFC's best -- tight end, but not the best in the entire league. Witten finishes the season second in the league in catches and yards among tight ends, and fourth in touchdowns. Not bad for a second-year player. That is true Dale, but Witten did outperform the skins top 2 receivers he has more yards than both coles and gardener and has as many tds as both of them combined. So we can at least admit that he is better than the skins WR's :laugh: Player Rec Yds Yds/G Lng Avg TDs 20+ 40+ Laveranues Coles 90 950 59.4 45 10.6 1 10 1 Rod Gardner 51 650 40.6 51 12.7 5 7 3 Jason Witten 87 974 60.9 42 11.2 6 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyZeb Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by DallasInDC That is true Dale, but Witten did outperform the skins top 2 receivers he has more yards than both coles and gardener and has as many tds as both of them combined. So we can at least admit that he is better than the skins WR's :laugh: Player Rec Yds Yds/G Lng Avg TDs 20+ 40+ Laveranues Coles 90 950 59.4 45 10.6 1 10 1 Rod Gardner 51 650 40.6 51 12.7 5 7 3 Jason Witten 87 974 60.9 42 11.2 6 13 1 And this supports the argument that he is or isn't the best TE how? What a useless post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Witten is a great player. Probably the best player on the Dallas offense. Parcells knows his TEs, that's for sure. Right now, though, I wouldn't say he's the very best in the NFL. Top five for sure. But I could think of one or three I'd take ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 HH31. Witten is a good solid TE but he is far from being one of the top TE's in the league. He had a nice season this year, mainly due to Dallas not having much production from their WR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClownPuncher Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by Oldskool HH31. Witten is a good solid TE but he is far from being one of the top TE's in the league. Oh really? He's the 3rd best TE in the entire league, but according to you, that is far from being one of the top huh? :dunce: These are the stats for TE's not including Wittens performance tonite. http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/TE-RECEIVING/2004/regular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyZeb Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by ClownPuncher Oh really? He's the 3rd best TE in the entire league, but according to you, that is far from being one of the top huh? :dunce: These are the stats for TE's not including Wittens performance tonite. http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/TE-RECEIVING/2004/regular Well there's a difference when Gonzalez has all the weapons around him in KC, Gates in SD, etc. and in Dallas its nobody but Witten. It affects the stats. Although, granted, it could be argued that would make it harder for Witten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feeshta Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by HeavyHitta31 Nope, sorry, Im alive and well there. Nice class with the Arrington spear of Aikman in your sig though. Yeah and you have tons of it right? You use the current leader in spearing technique as your sig. Roy Williams is the dirtiest player in the NFL at the moment, and the thing that baffles me is that he is still a media darling. But I guess you guys have a tradition of that. You know, dirty players that the media loves. See Michael "push-off" Irvin for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClownPuncher Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by CrazyZeb Well there's a difference when Gonzales has all the weapons around him in KC, Gates in SD, etc. and in Dallas its nobody but Witten. It affects the stats. Although, granted, it could be argued that would make it harder for Witten. Vinny threw for 3600 yards this season, less than 1000 yards went to Witten. Who did the other 2600 + yards go to if all Dallas has is Witten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by ClownPuncher Oh really? He's the 3rd best TE in the entire league, but according to you, that is far from being one of the top huh? :dunce: These are the stats for TE's not including Wittens performance tonite. http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/TE-RECEIVING/2004/regular Originally posted by CrazyZeb Well there's a difference when Gonzalez has all the weapons around him in KC, Gates in SD, etc. and in Dallas its nobody but Witten. It affects the stats. Although, granted, it could be argued that would make it harder for Witten. yeah pretty much sums it up Zeb. But again you cant tell cowgirls fans that without getting their assless chaps in a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyZeb Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by ClownPuncher Vinny threw for 3600 yards this season, less than 1000 yards went to Witten. Who did the other 2600 + yards go to if all Dallas has is Witten? Hey, maybe I'm wrong, but I think 28% of the yardage going to a TE is a lot. Who else do they have, you tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClownPuncher Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by Oldskool yeah pretty much sums it up Zeb. But again you cant tell cowgirls fans that without getting their assless chaps in a bunch You guys prove you know nothing about football if you can't admit a player is good just because he plays on a team you hate, that is called poor sportmanship or "my team got knocked the f**k out by their team twice" syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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