unsonny Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 The Associated Press Updated: 11:11 a.m. ET Nov. 19, 2004RONKONKOMA, N.Y. - Five teenagers were arrested in the hurling of a frozen turkey that smashed through a motorist’s windshield, critically injuring her. Police said Ryan Cushing, 18, threw the turkey from a car he and the other teens were riding in Saturday. It smashed through the car window of a 44-year-old woman who was driving in the other direction. A passenger in the car took hold of the steering wheel and guided it to the side of the road, police said. The driver was in critical condition at Stony Brook University Hospital. Cushing was arrested on charges of first-degree assault, reckless endangerment, forgery, criminal mischief and criminal possession of stolen property. He and the other teens allegedly stole a credit card to buy the turkey at a supermarket. The other four teens were charged with criminal possession of stolen property. Ronkonkoma is in the approximate geographic center of New York’s Long Island, about 50 miles east of N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 This story has been all over the NY Press...I will never undertstand these jerks. Dropping that turkey could have killed her and many others if the passenger hadn't been quick to act and take the car to the curb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 These F'ers need to go to prison for 25 yrs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dks1240 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 wow, were they really THAT bored? what idiots :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 As God as my witness, I swear I thought turkeys could fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien 91 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 If you thought that was stupid, a guy I went to high school with dropped shopping carts and cement blocks off of overpasses onto cars and trucks....:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by unsonny The other four teens were charged with criminal possession of stolen property. Hopefully, if these bozos hadn't waken up yet, they did when their attorney mentioned the words "felony murder" to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Rypien 91 If you thought that was stupid, a guy I went to high school with dropped shopping carts and cement blocks off of overpasses onto cars and trucks....:doh: Man, I dont understand why kids do stuff like that. Kinda reminds me of the move Good Son where Culkin causes that bad wreck:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Knowing that the answer is just that these kids are moronic dolts, I wonder why someone steals a credit card to BUY a turkey to drop on a car. Why not just steal the turkey or drop something else on a car (not that I am condoning it)? Besides whatever happened to good clean fun such as having some beers before a rip-roaring game of mailbox baseball? While prone to stupid stunts in the past as well, there just seemed to be a limit at "endangering another life" in days gone by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Stu As God as my witness, I swear I thought turkeys could fly. WKRP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Soliloquy WKRP? Affirm. Mr. Carlson. I think Les was in the helo with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Larry Hopefully, if these bozos hadn't waken up yet, they did when their attorney mentioned the words "felony murder" to them. Larry: Point taken, but unless criminal possession of stolen property is a felony, and the woman had died, their actions would not rise to felony murder. See subsection 3, below. There has to be an underlying felony committed in order for the charge to be 'felony murder.' For example, if a teller or security guard were killed while robbers were in the process of robbing a bank, then felony murder could arise. In the case before us, if the woman had died and their behavior was determined to evince a 'depraved indifference to human life,' then yes, there could have been 'felony murder.' See subsection 2, below. But considering the charge currently against them, there is no other way for it to be felony murder. NY's Felony Murder Statute: NY CLS Penal § 125.25 § 125.25. Murder in the second degree A person is guilty of murder in the second degree when: 1. With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the death of such person or of a third person; except that in any prosecution under this subdivision, it is an affirmative defense that: (a) The defendant acted under the influence of extreme emotional disturbance for which there was a reasonable explanation or excuse, the reasonableness of which is to be determined from the viewpoint of a person in the defendant's situation under the circumstances as the defendant believed them to be. Nothing contained in this paragraph shall constitute a defense to a prosecution for, or preclude a conviction of, manslaughter in the first degree or any other crime; or ( The defendant's conduct consisted of causing or aiding, without the use of duress or deception, another person to commit suicide. Nothing contained in this paragraph shall constitute a defense to a prosecution for, or preclude a conviction of, manslaughter in the second degree or any other crime; or 2. Under circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life, he recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to another person, and thereby causes the death of another person; or 3. Acting either alone or with one or more other persons, he commits or attempts to commit robbery, burglary, kidnapping, arson, rape in the first degree, [fig 1] criminal sexual act in the first degree, sexual abuse in the first degree, aggravated sexual abuse, escape in the first degree, or escape in the second degree, and, in the course of and in furtherance of such crime or of immediate flight therefrom, he, or another participant, if there be any, causes the death of a person other than one of the participants; except that in any prosecution under this subdivision, in which the defendant was not the only participant in the underlying crime, it is an affirmative defense that the defendant: (a) Did not commit the homicidal act or in any way solicit, request, command, importune, cause or aid the commission thereof; and ( Was not armed with a deadly weapon, or any instrument, article or substance readily capable of causing death or serious physical injury and of a sort not ordinarily carried in public places by law-abiding persons; and © Had no reasonable ground to believe that any other participant was armed with such a weapon, instrument, article or substance; and (d) Had no reasonable ground to believe that any other participant intended to engage in conduct likely to result in death or serious physical injury; or 4. Under circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life, and being eighteen years old or more the defendant recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of serious physical injury or death to another person less than eleven years old and thereby causes the death of such person; or 5. Being eighteen years old or more, while in the course of committing rape in the first, second or third degree, criminal sexual act in the first, second or third degree, sexual abuse in the first degree, aggravated sexual abuse in the first, second, third or fourth degree, or incest as defined in section 255.25 of this chapter, against a person less than fourteen years old, he or she intentionally causes the death of such person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Stu As God as my witness, I swear I thought turkeys could fly. You must be Les Nessman from WKRP in Cincinnatti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfox45 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Stu Knowing that the answer is just that these kids are moronic dolts, I wonder why someone steals a credit card to BUY a turkey to drop on a car. Why not just steal the turkey or drop something else on a car (not that I am condoning it)? Besides whatever happened to good clean fun such as having some beers before a rip-roaring game of mailbox baseball? While prone to stupid stunts in the past as well, there just seemed to be a limit at "endangering another life" in days gone by. i had the same question stu. stealing credit cards is all in good fun, but why use them to buy TURKEYS? clearly these kids need a financial manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by iheartskins 1. With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the death of such person or of a third person; except that in any prosecution under this subdivision, it is an affirmative defense that: (a) The defendant acted under the influence of extreme emotional disturbance...etc, etc. Now playing the part of Matlock...iheartskins, esquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by nickfox45 i had the same question stu. stealing credit cards is all in good fun, but why use them to buy TURKEYS? clearly these kids need a financial manager. No one knows what lurks in the criminal mind...sometimes not even the criminal himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by Stu Now playing the part of Matlock...iheartskins, esquire. :laugh: Hey, I have to start preparing sometime...the bar is in T-minus 8 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Well, he's 18, so that means he better get used to his new cellmates, Leroy and Billy Bob, and their nighty encounters as well He will wear out his cot pretty fast from bending over the front of it so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 N/m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 IHS....you know your stuff...... nice.......... I like the part where they're charged for stealing the CC though:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Man, I dont understand why kids do stuff like that. Kinda reminds me of the move Good Son where Culkin causes that bad wreck That's the 1st thing I thought of. What a bunch of little pricks. I hope they pay for this and not get off due to a technicality.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by cfujskins Man, I dont understand why kids do stuff like that. Kinda reminds me of the move Good Son where Culkin causes that bad wreck:doh: I second that....I believe the crash test dummy he dropped was called "Mr. Highway?". That was about as messed up as this...but that was only a movie. Idiots!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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