Chrisbob74 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 No redskins players making the fans top tens so far I'm afraid: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=citadel-2_320208_68&prov=citadel&type=lgns Roethlisberger - Faneca Among Pro-Bowl Ballots Editor - SteelCitySports.com November 17, 2004 at 6:00pm ET Minnesota Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper, with 325,383 votes, leads all NFL All-Stars in balloting for the 2005 Pro Bowl, the NFL announced today. Pro Bowl voting will continue on NFL.com, in stadiums and via wireless text message through Dec/ 19. Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning (310,236 votes), the NFL's leader in passing yards with 2,749 and touchdowns with 31, ranks second overall while Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb (300,503), Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens (272,759) and New York Giants running back Tiki Barber (260,568) round out the top five. The teams will be announced at 7 p.m. (ET) Dec. 22 on the 2005 Pro Bowl Selection Show on ESPN. The Pro Bowl will be played in Hawaii on Sunday, Feb. 13 and televised by ESPN at 7:30 p.m. (ET). The AFC and NFC All-Star squads are made up of the consensus votes of fans, players and coaches. Each group's vote counts one-third towards determining the 43-man rosters that represent the American Football Conference and National Football Conference in the Pro Bowl. NFL players and coaches will cast their votes on December 20-21. The NFL is the only sports league that combines voting by fans, coaches and players to determine its all-star teams. It was the first professional sports league to offer online all-star voting in 1995. Listed below are the top 10 overall All-Star vote-getters and the players with the most votes at each position through November 15: NFL ALL-STAR TOP-TEN VOTE-GETTERS Pos., Name, Team, Votes QB, Daunte Culpepper, Vikings, 325,383 QB, Peyton Manning, Colts, 310,236 QB, Donovan McNabb, Eagles, 300,503 WR, Terrell Owens, Eagles, 272,759 RB, Tiki Barber, Giants, 260,568 RB, Priest Holmes, Chiefs , 251,686 RB, Shaun Alexander, Seahawks, 232,032 WR, Randy Moss, Vikings , 220,854 QB, Ben Roethlisberger , Steelers, 215,681 K, David Akers, Eagles, 212,551 AFC LEADING VOTE-GETTERS Pos., Name, Team, Votes QB, Peyton Manning, Colts , 310,236 RB, Priest Holmes, Chiefs, 310,236 FB, Jerald Sowell, Jets, 132,893 WR, Marvin Harrison, Colts, 187,766 TE, Tony Gonzalez, Chiefs, 200,476 T, Jonathan Ogden, Ravens, 68,823 G, Alan Faneca , Steelers, 75,237 C, Kevin Mawae, Jets, 77,219 P, Shane Lechler, Raiders, 72,151 DE, John Abraham, Jets, 123,067 DT, Marcus Stroud, Jaguars, 80,398 OLB, Keith Bulluck, Titans, 47,598 ILB, Ray Lewis, Ravens, 83,817 CB, Champ Bailey, Broncos, 88,326 SS, Ed Reed, Ravens, 58,798 FS, John Lynch, Broncos, 39,787 K, Adam Vinatieri, Patriots, 107,046 ST, Larry Izzo, Patriots, 37,009 KR, B.J. Sams, Ravens, 44,619 NFC LEADING VOTE-GETTERS Pos., Name, Team, Votes QB, Daunte Culpepper, Vikings, 325,383 RB, Tiki Barber, Giants, 260,568 FB, Justin Griffith, Falcons, 94,783 WR, Terrell Owens, Eagles, 272,759 TE, Eric Johnson, 49ers, 151,286 T, Orlando Pace, Rams, 58,267 G, Larry Allen, Cowboys, 67,179 C, Matt Birk, Vikings, 50,832 DE, Charles Grant, Saints, 78,042 DT, Shaun Rogers, Lions, 64,970 OLB, Derrick Brooks, Buccaneers, 82,694 ILB, Brian Urlacher, Bears, 91,707 CB, Ken Lucas, Seahawks, 60,398 SS, Adam Archuleta, Rams, 40,699 FS, Darren Sharper, Packers, 63,207 P, Mitch Berger, Saints, 68,246 K, David Akers, Eagles, 212,551 ST, Jeremiah Trotter, Eagles, 49,987 KR, Eddie Drummond, Lions, 63,018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnmenon1 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 ST, Jeremiah Trotter, Eagles, 49,987 ?!@?!?!? :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 The Eagles fans are cramming the votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 when the players & coaches vote I'll push a couple skins to the roster,,,,, Does anyone remember what % the fans count for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfujskins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by KINGBRICE_28 when the players & coaches vote I'll push a couple skins to the roster,,,,, Does anyone remember what % the fans count for? I think 33% fans 33% players 33% coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by KINGBRICE_28 when the players & coaches vote I'll push a couple skins to the roster,,,,, Does anyone remember what % the fans count for? Specifically...? Btw, when are you taking down the Brunell-O-Meter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan83 Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 If anyone from the Skins deserves the pro bowl it's gotta be tom tupa.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 ILB, Brian Urlacher, Bears, 91,707 This guy is the most overrated LB in the league. He hasn't even played this year! Maybe 2-3 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoSkins Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Its a popularity contest. Remember when Samuels went to the Pro Bowl last year after having a terrible season? Guys like Urlacher, Brooks, and Lynch are there based mainly on popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skin_finatic Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 ken lucas?!?!? and not springs or smoot! griffen is better than rogers imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by skin_finatic ken lucas?!?!? and not springs or smoot! griffen is better than rogers imo! Griffin does have better numbers and has been out some too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSF Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Originally posted by TLusby ILB, Brian Urlacher, Bears, 91,707 This guy is the most overrated LB in the league. He hasn't even played this year! Maybe 2-3 games? Over rated - Yes But hes played in 7 of the 9 games this year so you cant base your assumptions on his lack of playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Griffin should be on the list, I think Springs and Smoot will get a push as well. On offense, well, I think Samuels is having a pro-bowl year again. Bear in mind, these are the top rankings for the positions, there are more slots per position than what is listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Sure the Eagle fans are voting, but you don't think the other teams fans are voting? I love how there's excuses why a 8-1 team has more probowlers then a lousy team. You guys really seem confused that there's no skins. Lol, who would you vote for? Arrington? Portis? Brunell? Smoot? Springs? Taylor? None of them are deserving to be on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I voted for Tupa and Griffin and Taylor, and Springs, and Pierce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMonkey Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Originally posted by jakehunter Sure the Eagle fans are voting, but you don't think the other teams fans are voting? I love how there's excuses why a 8-1 team has more probowlers then a lousy team. You guys really seem confused that there's no skins. Lol, who would you vote for? Arrington? Portis? Brunell? Smoot? Springs? Taylor? None of them are deserving to be on that list. If anything either Smoot or Springs if not both deserves to go . Right now their stats are the similair , if not better than their peers.. Champ Bailey G.. 9 .. tckl...34 Forced Fumbles.0..Sacks.. 0 Int..2 Pass Def...3 Smoot G.. 9 tckl...38 Forced fumbles..2 Sacks..0 Int..3 Pass Def....5 Springs G.. 9 tckl...28 Forced fumbles..1 Sacks..3 Int..3 Pass Def....2 Adam Archuleta G.. 9 tckl...56 Forced fumbles..1 Sacks..1 Int..0 Pass Def....1 Antoine Winfield G.. 9 tckl...53 Forced fumbles..2 Sacks..0 Int..2 Pass Def....5 Ed Reed G.. 9 tckl...39 Forced fumbles..1 Sacks..2 Int..5 Pass Def....4 I added Winfiield to the list, cause he was 2nd highest rated free agent corner behind Bailey, right now you would be hard pressed to find any other corners in the league playing better than smoot and Springs at this point in the season. As of right now they deserve to be voted. Just because a team has a loosing record doesn't mean there aren't any pro bowlers on the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Originally posted by MadMonkey If anything either Smoot or Springs if not both deserves to go . Right now their stats are the similair , if not better than their peers.. Champ Bailey G.. 9 .. tckl...34 Forced Fumbles.0..Sacks.. 0 Int..2 Pass Def...3 Smoot G.. 9 tckl...38 Forced fumbles..2 Sacks..0 Int..3 Pass Def....5 Springs G.. 9 tckl...28 Forced fumbles..1 Sacks..3 Int..3 Pass Def....2 Adam Archuleta G.. 9 tckl...56 Forced fumbles..1 Sacks..1 Int..0 Pass Def....1 Antoine Winfield G.. 9 tckl...53 Forced fumbles..2 Sacks..0 Int..2 Pass Def....5 Ed Reed G.. 9 tckl...39 Forced fumbles..1 Sacks..2 Int..5 Pass Def....4 I added Winfiield to the list, cause he was 2nd highest rated free agent corner behind Bailey, right now you would be hard pressed to find any other corners in the league playing better than smoot and Springs at this point in the season. As of right now they deserve to be voted. Just because a team has a loosing record doesn't mean there aren't any pro bowlers on the squad And you don't think there are players with even better stats then them? Like I said, on that list... No Redskin is deserving of being on it. Maybe a player or two proves worthy to make it to the pro bowl, we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Originally posted by jakehunter And you don't think there are players with even better stats then them? Like I said, on that list... No Redskin is deserving of being on it. Maybe a player or two proves worthy to make it to the pro bowl, we shall see. Kill him for not agreeing with us :laugh:..... :whippin: We have a couple...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Originally posted by KINGBRICE_28 Kill him for not agreeing with us :laugh:..... :whippin: We have a couple...... thanks:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Yes, based on those stats, both Springs and Smoot deserve to go. Also, Reed and Archuleta are safeties and don't belong on the list with cb's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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