d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Do you agree with "The" penalty? I DO NOT, and I will tell you why. Today was a turning point in the season for both teams. It was essentially a playoff game. The Packers now suddenly have a rebirth, and we drop probably our easiest game for the rest of the year... My complaint is: When you are officiating such an important game, why is it essential to make yourself the deciding factor? You see refs in basketball moving out of the way to "let the boys play" when the game is winding down. Especially when the game is extremely important. So why is it any different in football? The call might have been correct in technical terms, but why do we hate the BCS so much? Because it is TOO TECHNICAL. We are humans, we have common sense. And this my good friends, was horrible judgement by that official. What kind of time was that to make his presence felt? Let the boys play. <--- I think everybody can agree with me on that, even if you think that Thrash was in illegal motion. I think the ref has an illegal stick up his a$$, how 'bout that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 when you need a flag to decide your game, usually you can get all pissed. But after seeing Brunell miss wide open players throughtout the day, its not like we were going to get any gifts to get back into the game. We had our chances to take the lead and win. But the weakest link of this franchise couldn't hit a target or would turn it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 That call was absolute sh*t, and just cost us the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Thrash didnt even go out for a route so it gave him no sort of advantage. Can you even call it if the guy doesnt go out for a route?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octane67 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 it was a legal call but was unnecessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan080 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 99 times out of a hundred that isnt called. Look at it this way, do you think if it wasent called, Packer fan would be upset saying " Its Illegal Motion, Its Illegal"... I dont think so. Its just some bs that didnt need to be and really is never called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockville Redskin Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Complete bullcrap considering he wasn't a factor in the play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 The call was wrong. Watch the game again and you'll see that every player that went in motion for both teams today did not get set before the ball was snapped most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting for old D.C. Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I guarantee that if it wasn't called, no one would be talking about how there was illegal motion on the Redskins. The Packers would have no beef, the announcers wouldn't have said a thing, and neither would have the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RySkins Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Awful call by an awful officiating crew in an awful organization that is NFL Refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 If it was technically correct, then it was correct. It's one thing to complain about phantom calls, it quite another when the refs make the correct call. Your notion that they should just "let the boys play," is incredibly shortsighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien11 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 it was a legal call but was unnecessary how can something be legal when it never took place anywhere except the officals imanigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted November 1, 2004 Author Share Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by BigSwish3 I guarantee that if it wasn't called, no one would be talking about how there was illegal motion on the Redskins. The Packers would have no beef, the announcers wouldn't have said a thing, and neither would have the league. Thank you. You said it right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzlightbeer81 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I dont agree at all, if i had the clip on my computer i could say for sure if i thought it was a penalty or not, but i do know for sure that it shouldnt have been called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted November 1, 2004 Author Share Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by terpskins If it was technically correct, then it was correct. It's one thing to complain about phantom calls, it quite another when the refs make the correct call. Your notion that they should just "let the boys play," is incredibly shortsighted. I'll shortsight you! :finger: Haha. Anyways, why is it shortsighted? What is the logical thing to do, Mr. Logical? Why don't we just set up 120 cameras around the stadium and set them with alarms so whenever there is a slight penalty they can go off? Before you know it, cyborgs will have to play this game to stay away from bullcrap penalties. If the play were to go off without a flag, the Packers, nor anybody else on the entire planet would have accused Thrash of being in illegal motion. As somebody said earlier, subtle penalties were happening without flags all game long. And my point is, during the crusial last minutes of the game you should only worry about crusial actions. Otherwise, you should just set up a computer system and forget about the human ability to know when to let the 2 teams go at each other without any nit picking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by Son of Sniglet when you need a flag to decide your game, usually you can get all pissed. But after seeing Brunell miss wide open players throughtout the day, its not like we were going to get any gifts to get back into the game. We had our chances to take the lead and win. But the weakest link of this franchise couldn't hit a target or would turn it over. Exactly, it's water under the bridge...that wasn't the play that cost us the game or the season, it's the ineptitude of the offense--wake up fellow fans, Brunell and the offense are completely incompetent and Gibbs and his offensive staff seem losed and totally oblivious to what's going on around them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzlightbeer81 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 if u called every foot and swaying body, every touch on a reciever after 5 yards, every little thing u could find, you would have a penalty on every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 It had zero effect on the play, so why call it? If Thrash goes and gets the TD then yes, but it had absolutely no bearing on that play at all. At that critical juncture in the game, let the players decide the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsForLife260 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Burnell did miss open people, but the refs suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateIggles Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I just watched the play over and over and over...It appears that Thrash might be going forward a bit, and did not set his feet prior to the snap. With that said, I also watched Green Bay do the same thing a hand full of times, including the 50 yard pass to Green coming out of the backfield (which led to a score I think) Call it for both teams or don't call it at all. All we are looking for is consistency (as much as a human can be). :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted November 1, 2004 Author Share Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by skins4eva Exactly, it's water under the bridge...that wasn't the play that cost us the game or the season, it's the ineptitude of the offense--wake up fellow fans, Brunell and the offense are completely incompetent and Gibbs and his offensive staff seem losed and totally oblivious to what's going on around them Hello? It's 7 points and a win! It was a great play from the offense! You act like Gibbs couldn't coach a high school team. He draws up great plays, it's just our offensive line that couldn't block a gust of wind. So what? Are we going to just ignore this play like it didn't happen? Yeah, our offense isn't the best in the league...but who expected it to be? It's like we expected to be 12-4 because our God came back. No, it's tough, he knows how to draw up truely brilliant plays...we just need to work on protection for whoever the QB is, and we need to push the defense forward so Clinton isn't touched before he hits the line of scrimmage. I think we need 2 things. Some athletic, young, and spunky offensive linemen - and Joe Bugel needs to put them through some tougher strength and conditioning drills. Offensive success lives breathes and dies at the O-line. Anyways, 'twas a bullsh*t call. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway66 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Look guys as much as I love the skins the penalty did not cost us the game. The fact that the skins stunk throughout the first half cost us the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Originally posted by d0ublestr0ker0ll Hello? It's 7 points and a win! It was a great play from the offense! You act like Gibbs couldn't coach a high school team. He draws up great plays, it's just our offensive line that couldn't block a gust of wind. So what? Are we going to just ignore this play like it didn't happen? Yeah, our offense isn't the best in the league...but who expected it to be? It's like we expected to be 12-4 because our God came back. No, it's tough, he knows how to draw up truely brilliant plays...we just need to work on protection for whoever the QB is, and we need to push the defense forward so Clinton isn't touched before he hits the line of scrimmage. I think we need 2 things. Some athletic, young, and spunky offensive linemen - and Joe Bugel needs to put them through some tougher strength and conditioning drills. Offensive success lives breathes and dies at the O-line. Anyways, 'twas a bullsh*t call. Right? You're kidding right? Did you happen to see our other offensive series? We would have been shutout had the defense not put us in a position to score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockville Redskin Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 but we're talking about THAT play and it worked. yes we stunk it up in the first half but we didn't stop playing. That flag shifted the momentum and it was a bullcrap call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RySkins Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Multiple times the Packers ran out of the huddle and snapped the ball without being set for the required "count" and it was never called because they have the "Almighty God" playing quarterback. Consistency and fairness...two things the zebras are not giving us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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