afparent Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 way too conservative no imagination wrong personnel too predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWill Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 I didn't see a choice on there for our offense just handing the opposition one TD per game. Not only did we turn the ball over in those cases, but the opposing D ran it back for a TD 4 times. We are at least 3-2 without those specific turnovers. We have given up 10 total TDs in 5 games.....4 defensive TDs and a punt return for a TD are included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by Octane67 Ok so whats been our most glaring factor ? This not just about the ravens game but a summary of the season up until now.... what about all of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by poidog22 I really don't see where Ramsey could do much worse than Brunell has been doing. I mean, at the very least Ramsey might be able to hold onto the ball better when he gets hit. And with PR's gunslinger attitude, he might be able to loosen up those tight 8 & 9 man fronts. :doh: :helmet: :2cents: ramsey would be taking more sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 If we had just taken a knee on every play of the second half, would we have won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Lets See with the current group we need to switch to either Ramsey or Hasslebeck at QB. As far as play calling we need to utlize quick counts, misdirection and dump the vanilla stuff heck I'd grab some plays from S double that worked but needed to provide a blocker or two. Heck we scout other teams why cant we utilize some of their effective plays like we did with the bootleg? Its time to take D Mac out of the doghouse Offseason we have to draft the stud Center and guard and hope for a healthy Jansen Fire special teams coach get some players that actually can play on special teams that arent starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 We need to start passing the ball better, to open up the run. Clinton isn't a bruising back, so the holes need to be there. Gibbs needs to get rid of Brunell at the end of the year. He's a good field general, but his skills and confidence has diminished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 I vote for "all of the above" except for the players not buying into the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BleedinBurgundyandGold Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Look at the bright side, Brunell's favorite target (throw-it-away) is looking to make the pro-bowl. He's got what? 50 catches in 5 games? ---------------------------------- Formerly Jurgensen4Prez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BleedinBurgundyandGold Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by OURYEAR#56 We need to start passing the ball better, to open up the run. Clinton isn't a bruising back, so the holes need to be there. Gibbs needs to get rid of Brunell at the end of the year. He's a good field general, but his skills and confidence has diminished. Why didn't we take a shot with Coles on a go route from the slot? Worked against Cleveland and it might have opened some things up. I'm really worried now, more so than ever, because in the past Gibbs was always able to just make things work, it they were stuffing the run we'd go over the top, if they were blanketing our WR, we'd get the H-back and TE involved. It's apparent to me that Gibb's does not have the right guy under center. Brunell is old, slow and gives up on plays. The one thing you can say about Ramsay is he would stand in the middle of any pocket and make a throw. Brunell is back there dancing more that Michael Jackson, its sickening. ---------------------- Formerly Jurgensen4Prez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BleedinBurgundyandGold Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by NavyDave Lets See with the current group we need to switch to either Ramsey or Hasslebeck at QB. As far as play calling we need to utlize quick counts, misdirection and dump the vanilla stuff heck I'd grab some plays from S double that worked but needed to provide a blocker or two. Heck we scout other teams why cant we utilize some of their effective plays like we did with the bootleg? Its time to take D Mac out of the doghouse Offseason we have to draft the stud Center and guard and hope for a healthy Jansen Fire special teams coach get some players that actually can play on special teams that arent starters I taped the game and watched the film early this morning when I couldn't sleep and if you focus solely on the offensive line there was only one player making ANY mistakes, Kenyatta Jones. We all know about the big touchdown play where he got beat by the end, forcing Betts up to help out and letting ed reed turn the corner, but at least 6 or 7 other times he would pull to the weak side and take FOREVER to get there leaving portis one on one with suggs and lewis. With Brunell as our starter, we could not have lost anyone more important than Jon Jansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Benching Brunell all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Oops. Too bad I didn't seen this post before putting the new poll on the front page. Gee ... I wonder if it'll come out any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 if the QB cannont get his team lined up in time, properly and without near failure..... then he needs to be looked at. He is the weakest part of this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge316 Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by WVSkinsfan My vote goes to the QB and RB b/c they hav'nt done nothing. I agree with this. He hasn't done anything this season. He's getting paid like a top 5 QB for this season (bonuses and salary), yet he is no where near average when comparing numbers. Can't find receivers, can't throw beyond 10 yards, isn't even a smart qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 where's the "all of the above" circle..... Mostly it's the system. I guess 2 wr's VS a 2 deep zone just won't get open. Maybe we need to "open it up" spurrier style one game and throw everyone off......let the damn line block their guys....no more double teams and If they wanna blitz we'll if you can count to eleven you should know that SOMEBODY is wide open.......tighten up guys....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Vet Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by BleedinBurgundyandGold Look at the bright side, Brunell's favorite target (throw-it-away) is looking to make the pro-bowl. He's got what? 50 catches in 5 games? ---------------------------------- Formerly Jurgensen4Prez That is funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLiNT0N P0RTiS Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by KINGBRICE_28 where's the "all of the above" circle..... Mostly it's the system. I guess 2 wr's VS a 2 deep zone just won't get open. Maybe we need to "open it up" spurrier style one game and throw everyone off......let the damn line block their guys....no more double teams and If they wanna blitz we'll if you can count to eleven you should know that SOMEBODY is wide open.......tighten up guys....... I agree... We were horrible last night. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippster Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Unfortunately, and I hate to say this because it's blasphemy, but I think it's Gibbs. Gregg Williams has his group overachieving. He's got non-starters playing like Superman. Gibbs' group is underachieving big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBMGreatOne Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 I would vote Brunell, but my session appears to be invalid. Seriously, the guy is finished. He stinks. I could have done better playing QB last night, and I'm barely even kidding. We can look at every individual player on offense and criticize their relative strengths and weaknesses, but I'm sure the coaching staff is already doing that. There is only one pragmatic solution to our problems that actually stands a chance of making a significant difference. Switch QBs NOW! Ramsey has been wearing his helmet during the course of both of the last two games. Do you think this is a coincidence? He's going in sooner or later, why not now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 This is what is wrong with the offense and I cannot take all the credit because Doc Walker just said this on TV. Has anyone noticed that Brunell's cadence is exactly the same 2-40 2-40 hut. It isn't that they teams know our plays, they get a good start for every play. How does Reed time his blitz so perfectly? He knows the cadence. On 3 and 2, he should have draw him offsides. Does anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 I voted the players because that has been an answer choice on the <i>What's wrong with the Team</i> thread for the last five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFaninOKC Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 It's time to change the QB. Ramsey should start. Brunell does not look comfortable in the offense nor does Portis for the matter, but you can't bench Clinton. Coles has the dropsies. Did Roy put the "fear" in him?? Let's bring stick em' back if he can't hold on to it. I hope, at this point, that Gibbs bites the bullet. Record be damned. Let Ramsey finish the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Pablo Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 I think that in part, its the lack of motion... Our most successful drives have had an inordinate amount of players shifting position. Since our "dumbening" of the playbook, we seem ridiculously easy to figure out. Thats a really simple explanation, and it probably isn't completely right. If Gibbs can get the play out quicker and our players stop being doofuses, this offense has a lot of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 It's clearly the gameplanning IMO. The personnel are not being fully utilized to take advantage of their strengths. i.e: - Portis is not a pounding, workhorse type back - Cooley is more of a threat receiving than blocking - The O-line is not a power, blow people off the blocks type unit - We have a great group of WRs; Lets send out more than 2 as a first rule not second Bottom line is, this team is not a power type team. The personnel is geared towards that of a race horse: finesse and spreading the field. What we're trying to run is geared for a workhorse type personnel which we dont have. All IMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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