Leonard Washington Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I was wondering what people thought about the personell packages that Gibbs is using. I wonder why guys like Betts, Molinaro, Cartwright, McCants, Koslowski, and Jones aren't playing. I ultimately trust Gibbs but I wonder why these guys aren't getting any spot time. At least Thrash and Jacobs got some touches last night. OFF TOPIC 1: Ray Brown is getting used by defensive ends. They are just abusing him with the speed rush and he is unable to put his hands on people in running game. Ray has played above average for a 42yo but I think they should at least try a rotation to keep him fresh. OFF TOPIC 2: I think Gibbs are setting people up BIGTIME with lining Portis up as a wideout. He ran the formation 2-3 times last night, both times he ran rolled Brunell away. I think sooner or later we're going to catch somone sleeping and portis is going to get big yards!:point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I have been wondering why Brown is starting instead of K. Jones. I didn't think Jones was playing that badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denverdan Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Last time I checked my name isn't Joe Gibbs and i don't make decisions on who plays. However, I thought Betts should of gotten at least two touches, especially on the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan913 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 When it's 1st and goal that would be a perfect time to bring in Rock. Where the hell is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I think Jones is hurt, and no McCants is not better then Gardner or maybe even Jacobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted September 28, 2004 Author Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by jbooma I think Jones is hurt, and no McCants is not better then Gardner or maybe even Jacobs. its not about being better than someone as a starter. its about utilizing skills. i.e. rock or betts might be better in short yardage, mccants better in goaline situations etc. i mean starters are playing on special teams...it just doesn't seem like we are using everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by skinsfan913 When it's 1st and goal that would be a perfect time to bring in Rock. Where the hell is he? As is well known, I love my Rock. And I think he should be active, but bias aside, if you are not going to use Rock, then for goodness sakes, use Betts. He is a power back. Use Cooley and Betts, Sellers and Rock, Betts and Rock, Cooley and Rock. Just utilize your offensive players. Maybe next week he will be active. I miss seeing him out there. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyG3 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 If Morton is hurt, I think Rock will be activated next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by Blondie As is well known, I love my Rock. And I think he should be active, but bias aside, if you are not going to use Rock, then for goodness sakes, use Betts. He is a power back. Use Cooley and Betts, Sellers and Rock, Betts and Rock, Cooley and Rock. Just utilize your offensive players. Maybe next week he will be active. I miss seeing him out there. Blondie Blondie, did Rock get my note about putting those pounds back on for short yardage duty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Bass Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I would like to see more of Thrash and Jacobs. Thrash had a pretty good game yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by Zen-like Todd Blondie, did Rock get my note about putting those pounds back on for short yardage duty? Oh yeah, uh huh. He said he isn't going to put the weight back on. :laugh: Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookie0720 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I agree with the previous poster, I didn't think Jones was playing badly whatsoever. He didnt' allow any sacks, and we ran for over 100 yards in the game he started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I do think Betts would bring it going up the middle more than Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silllydan Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I posted about this earlier. Definately agree, portis up the middle through that tough dallas de line was not a good idea. We were out coached on this occasion. Parcells countered greg williams blitzes with quick hit full back and tight end routes which often went uncovered. Gibbs on the other hand stayed in that two reciever h-back formation and we never capitalized on the man to man coverage on the outside while roy williams was covering the h-back. Denver uses complex zone blocking schemes out of often spread sets to give portis space to work. Our long developing counters and traps are not productive for portis, he's not a power back. Waht happened to the Monk, Sanders, Clark trio? Three reciever sets on third and ten can't be all that bad. We don't have the personel and i'm sorry but our battered offencive line is not that strong to pound away at will on the ground. Gibbs is smart and i hope he starts using our reciver depth and giving some more room for portis to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerpSkin Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I trust Gibbs, but I would like to see Betts get some more playing time. I think we are fortunate to have two good RBs and we need to make use of that, especially since Portis (as great as he is) has struggled a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteve Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Running backs Portis size can only run where there are openings. Lets face it, our line isn't making any. Alot of Portis runs he's created himself when there weren't extra holes for him to run through. We need to let Samuels go and stick in Molinaro. And right now I really miss Jon Jansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Joe Hog Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I agree with others who think Betts should be the goal line back. Portis does not hit it hard enough down there. I bashed Gardner as much as anyone, but Gibbs seems to be right about him, after all. We'll see if Gardner can become consistent. If so, we've got a star on our hands. I'd forgotten that it took Art Monk a while to come around. More playing time for Jacobs is a no brainer. He is a talent. In his first tour, Joe Gibbs was the ultimate role-player coach. I think that as players develop their knowledge and skills to a level that meets his standards we'll see him use more players during games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsofwashington Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I thought Betts would get some carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 number 2 still makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 no, we certainly are not using all our personnel to maximum effect on offense. we show none of the flexibility we do on the other side of the ball, where players seem to step up weekly. Gibbs banished McCants to the inactive list from the start of the season, a strange move given his 3 year contract extension. We fail to use Cooley and Portis in the passing game enough for my taste with Brunell's shortcomings on the long ball. And we have been far too predictable at times. In the first few games we would run on first, run on second and then throw on third. almost like a mantra. remember all those stops down at the goal line the first few weeks against Dallas and the Browns? too damn predictable. funny, Gibbs says he trusts Brunell and Brunell has been so courageous, well if that's the case how come Gibbs doesn't trust him enough to throw the ball in from down close? How come we run the ball inside and then kick the safe field goal if that doesn't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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