RDSKNfaithfull Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by Leonard Washington gardner is better than mccants. point blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark327 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i have nothing against Gardner , but he needs to decide whether he's gonna be a good reciever or a brick mason !!! :ravensuck :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I think McCants should be our #3, but it’s tough to say between him and Gardner. Gardner has more raw talent, but does not seem to want it as much as McCants. I’d like to see how McCants does against 1st string talent as the #2 for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark327 Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 i agree with Phat . unless D-mac gets some 1st string playing time ,we'll never really know if he can handle it. IMO , i think he can :2cents: :ravensuck :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
>>Spearhead>> Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Gardner will have a good year and then go get paid somewhere giving the #2 slot to McCants, who may just take it anyway- unless Rod's Clemson @ss can make a play in the remaining 3 games. Truth be told other than 1 Brunell to McCants TD pass nothing has looked good on O-and that can't be put on Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avg Joe Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Man, I don't even know why this is a discussion. D-Mac has had chances to climb to the 2nd spot, and hasn't. As a 3rd receiver he's done well down in the red zone. He's a good situational WR. He's not better than Rod G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 what i dont understand is why NFL coaches dont put their #1 offense and defense against the other teams backups during preseason. if you want to evaluate players (i.e McCants, Jacobs, Betts, etc.) and see if they are 1st string quality players, then play them against starters, not scrubs. not taking away from D-Mac, but he's shining against players that might not even play in the NFL. yeah i know that coaches want their 1st string to get prepared and used to playing for the real season, but atleast do it for half of the preseason. i would really like to see McCants playing against starters, the same goes for Jacobs and Betts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple6mafia Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 gardner will stay becuase he is big, strong and young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 I say give McCants his reps now. Gardner is obviously gone after this year. All he does is drop one after the other - it's no surprise he's nicknamed 50/50. McCants just seems to have a nose for the end zone. Off the top of my head, he scored 18 TDs on his 36 catches his senior year in college. He already has 8 TDs in 40 something catches in his pro career. I say start him and watch him score 10 Tds on 60 catches for about 850 yards. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Murphaaay Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by red zone Gardner's play will improve in the Gibbs system. My knock on Gardner is he often loses focus and doesn't finish his routes. D. Mac. is a much headier player; very clutch, but not as fast. Perfect number three type player. :point2sky I wouldn't go so far as to call a 3rd or 4th WR in the rotation a clutch player. Especially when there's no real pressure on him to perform week in and week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainSkinsFan Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 This is a ridiculous thread. Like someone else mentioned, D. Mac has had the chance to move up and didn't come through. Gardner is in there for a reason folks. I know that it's fun and easy to root for the underdog, but, let's not be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipplug Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Here's how I see it 1. Coles 2. Thrash 3. McCants Gardner will be dealt before the regular season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 they need to trade one of them for a defensive end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by zipplug Here's how I see it 1. Coles 2. Thrash 3. McCants Gardner will be dealt before the regular season starts. :puke: What happened to our depth:puke: If it comes to Trash starting we are in bad shape. When the players talk such as Portis they say Rod and L.C. Rods trade value is far less than his value to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I like Gardener but I like ogun more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Originally posted by zipplug Here's how I see it 1. Coles 2. Thrash 3. McCants Gardner will be dealt before the regular season starts. I agree with this man 110%. Could be the second coming of the original posse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzie Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Jacobs will not make the team if he always hurting. we need players on the feild not off the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas-Born Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I agree with a lot of these posts. Gardner will most likely go into the season #2. However, the season will tell the story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I expect a big season from both Gardner and McCants. Gardner will be labeled the number 2 WR. He'll be out there in I-formations and what not. He will also have a pretty solid year. I can see between 60-70 catches for both he and Coles. McCants will be the true number 3 and play basically the same role he did last year. Also as ASF has pointed out, he'll be brought in motion plenty and be used underneath. McCants is also going to be a key weapon in the red zone like Spurrier used him. Both these guys will have solid years. A lot of people are going to be surprised by how well Gardner does in a professional offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APBT Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 If we keep Gardner at #2, then he should be doing what McCants is doing now.(cathing, getting open and YAC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 gardener will have a great year in a Dolphin uniform;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteve Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 McCants reminds me at times of Michael Irvin. He has pretty much the same build, he just doesn't have the same skill set, but he does have potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Originally posted by Fred Jones No, Gardner hasn't done anything to justify moving him from the #2 spot. Gardner hasn't done anything to justify being the #2 receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 there is an intersting dynamic here, it seems to me that a lot of guys WANT Gardner out, or maybe more so, WANT McCants in. It isn't like Gardner has been sucking, or costing us, and it isn't like McCants has been torching the feild. On top of that, you look a lot better playing against a #3 corner than you do against a starter. Originally posted by cphil006 Gardner hasn't done anything to justify being the #2 receiver. Well, he has had a 1000+ yard season, that is good enough to justify being a #1. Also keep in mind McCants isn't any younger than Gardner, infact Gardner is younger than McCants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 For the record Gardner is 10 months older than McCants. I like Gardner and it seems he has some support in this thread. Where would I be without the weekly "Gardner sucks/McCants rules" thread that is required each week on Extremeskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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