webnarc Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I wonder if Gore considered this as a possibility when he invented the Internet? [line] http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/29/1085641765286.html Boy used chat room to get himself killed By Nigel Bunyan, Manchester May 30, 2004 A 15-year-old British grammar school boy has been convicted of inciting an internet friend to murder him. The boy, who can be identified only by the pseudonym John, invented a cast of characters in a chat room as part of a plan to commission his own murder. Some of his inspiration came from James Bond films and the science-fiction blockbuster Men In Black. He was 14 when he fell in love with Mark, a boy two years older, and adopted the guise of a female secret service agent to order his friend to stab him in an alleyway. Mark was meant to end his life with the words: "I love you, bro." Mark carried out the stabbing in Altrincham, Cheshire, shortly before 8pm on June 29 last year. He knifed John in the chest and abdomen. The second blow cut into his kidney, liver and gall bladder, nearly killing him. Minutes later, Mark reported the attack on his mobile phone. Police launched a manhunt after both boys told them a stranger in black had dragged John into the alleyway and stabbed him. Advertisement Advertisement It was only when officers studied CCTV footage that they realised the boys were lying. Manchester Crown Court heard detectives studied 58,000 lines of internet text to break down the boys' account and show that John, who surfed the net for seven hours at a time, had spent six months manipulating Mark until he felt he was ready to commit murder. It emerged that John had introduced himself to Mark on the internet as a teenage girl. Mark performed sexual acts for the girl on a webcam which John watched. Later John introduced a series of other characters to the chat room, including a second girlfriend, a stalker and two secret service agents modelled on Bond films. One of the agents, identified as Agent 47695, told Mark she had been assigned to protect John. Later she ordered Mark to kill the boy, promising him a gun, a large sum of money and a meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Blair as a reward. John, wearing a checked shirt, pale blue tie and dark trousers, sat crying in the dock as the bizarre story was told. Mark, in a blue and white jumper, sat a few feet away. John pleaded guilty to inciting someone to murder him - a crime described by Judge David Maddison as "extraordinary" - and perverting the course of justice. John was sentenced to a three-year supervision order. Mark admitted attempted murder and was given a two-year supervision order. The boys were also banned from contacting each other. John was ordered to use the internet only under supervision and told that he must never go into a chat room again. Mr Clarke said: "The whole scheme John designed was to bring about his death. He was depressed, having fallen out with friends at school and having problems with his stepfather at home." John's mother told the court he now had a wider circle of friends, including a girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanjoe Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 In the words of Hank Hill. "That boy aint right" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Why couldn't it have been a murder-suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 WTF???? That's some weird sh*t!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slammer Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 So what was the need for the Al Gore crack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Originally posted by The Slammer So what was the need for the Al Gore crack? It's a board filled with blind republicans, you just have to expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Atlhawks, As Winston Churchill once said: “If a man is not a liberal when he is 18, he has no heart. If a man is not a conservative when he is 30, he has no brain.” Give yourself a few years and you'll understand. I got over my bleeding heart liberalism at age 19 after taking a few economics courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFunky1 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Originally posted by atlhawksfan It's a board filled with blind republicans, you just have to expect it. webnarc a blind Republican? I don't think so. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Originally posted by chiefhogskin48 Atlhawks, As Winston Churchill once said: “If a man is not a liberal when he is 18, he has no heart. If a man is not a conservative when he is 30, he has no brain.” Give yourself a few years and you'll understand. I got over my bleeding heart liberalism at age 19 after taking a few economics courses. You're still young enough to take some Humanities courses. Be balanced - walk the road between the two. :cool: :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by chiefhogskin48 Give yourself a few years and you'll understand. I got over my bleeding heart liberalism at age 19 after taking a few economics courses. Interesting. I got over my libertarianism at age 18 after taking a few economics courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 AtB, Where did you take your econ classes? I was almost as liberal as webnarc before I took them. Of course, the biggest thing that turned me off econ was my sister ****ing about econ majors in her stats classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Yeah that is interesting ATB. If anything I got more economically libertarian after my first few economics courses. College did ease me up on my social rigidness though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webnarc Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 Originally posted by The Slammer So what was the need for the Al Gore crack? I honestly don't know. It's hit and miss with me (mostly miss) but I thought it was funny. I love the Internet and I know that Gore had a lot to do with it's creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 :doh: Not much surprises me when it comes to internet criminals anymore. It is easy to manipulate people behind a screen you can't see to do things that they normally would not (being a victim of this myself once, I would know-not committing a crime or anything, but manipulation can come in many forms by way of many vices). I remember being in a chat room once when a "woman" came into the room & exclaimed that she had just been raped. After talking to her for about an hour & listening (reading) her story about what had happened, she finally admitted to it happening in another chat room. I was like,"What? Why didn't you just leave the room?" She started giving us all these excuses, at which point, I put her on ignore. It's kind of hard for me to sit there & listen to someone mock something so horrible for someone to really have to experience. Being a REAL victim of rape, & knowing many people who have been real victims of rape & date rape, I found that highly offensive. So, like I said, when I hear things like this about the internet, I'm not as shocked as I used to be. But, it is still rather disturbing. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 RC, Did my minor in economics at Harvard. The professor my first year was Marty Feldstein--hardly a socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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