goldenster95 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Some excerpts on 'Skins things . . . http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2004/whispers1903.htm Sources close to the Redskins say CB Fred Smoot has shown tremendous dedication to the finer details of the game, such as film study, this offseason — something that rubbed off from former teammate Champ Bailey, a notoriously disciplined player.Rumors persist that the Seahawks could go after a veteran middle linebacker (Jeremiah Trotter?) before the summer runs its course, but we hear head coach Mike Holmgren seemed dead-set against going in that direction at presstime.Redskins WR Taylor Jacobs, battling for the team’s No. 3 spot, has added nearly 10 pounds of muscle this offseason, mostly in his upper body. Jacobs apparently hasn’t lost any of his speed, and the added weight should help him get off the line better, something that hurt him as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaSkinsNut Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 If Jacobs turns into another Coles style receiver our passing game will be totally sick. Poor Rod will either move to a slot reciver or ask to be traded most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Taylor Jacobs is really a wild card in this matter. It will be interesting to watch his progress under Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Until he shows something, he's no better than Desmond Howard. Right now I'm still saying Coles/Gardner or Coles/McCants is the best starting lineup for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by blakman211 Until he shows something, he's no better than Desmond Howard. Right now I'm still saying Coles/Gardner or Coles/McCants is the best starting lineup for us. Coles/Gardner with a McCants/Jacobs thrown in at #3. Let's not forget that Desmond was a great return man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by Symbol Let's not forget that Desmond was a great return man. Yes he was, but not for the price we paid for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 #1=coles #2= gardner (he's been a #1 reciever in spurriers crap system) #3= Mcants #4=jacobs (he still hasnt proven anything....even his TD catch in Dallas looked like it hit the ground....not saying that he cant be good) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghetto-smoove Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 with the help of gibbs..I look for jacobs to do big things... Coles - Gary Clark Gardner/Mcants - Art Monk Jacobs/Thrash - Ricky Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Taylor Jacobs deserves a lot more credit than we've given him. Even Sonny is big on this kid. I think he may turn a lot of heads this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Jacobs definitely has the potential to rise up and be the #3 receiver. McCants is a good threat for the end zone. I dont know why people want him to start over Gardner, Gardner has a lot more experience and hopefully wont drop balls anymore and has become a lot more disciplined last year when Coles arrived. Under Gibbs, I think he wants to prove why we drafted him in the first round over Santana Moss or any others. We definitely have a good young receiver corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan4life Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by Symbol Let's not forget that Desmond was a great return man. But we have "great" return men in thrash and morton, plus desmond didnt do any great returning for us haha, for the pakcers sure but not for us. and he is still a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Remember, Joe Gibbs has said he has really liked what he has seen so far in Jacobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X-Factor Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 McCants should still be the slot receiver, he at least has some experience over Jacobs. Jacobs should get more and more time as the season progresses. You can't argue wtih his potential, but he still has not reached it yet. Adding 10 pounds of muscle is pretty impressive. Opposing corners will have a very diffcult time trying to cover every single receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I don’t think that we should discount Taylor Jacobs here at all. This kid not only has tremendous physical skills but he also learned from Spurrier. Say what you want about OBC, he could coach up the QB and WR positions. Add that to the fact that he is now learning from Gibbs and no one knows what his potential could be. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him being the #2 receiver in 2005 next to Coles with McCants at #3/slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 While I like McCants, and I'm very happy he's a redskin, I don't think he'll ever be more than just a #3 guy. Jacobs has the potential to become a premier #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PulpExposure Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 One thing about Taylor is that most wideouts aren't very good their first year in the NFL. It's a complex position that takes a bit of time to get used to. Breaking off the line (and bump n/ run coverage from much stronger NFL defenders), running routes both are skills that most receivers don't have in college. Compound the difficulty of learning to play Wideout in the NFL (as opposed to college where you could just run past everyone), with the injury he suffered, I don't think you can judge him at all based on last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I have a feeling that all the love for the Redskin receivers will be proven to be well merited. That is why I am still in favor of trading Gardner, and that is no diss on him. Gardner is a serviceable #1 and a strong 2. That being said it is why he is the guy to trade, because his talent is documented in service. McCants gets the love because we see something special there. Jacobs gets the love because he really does have #1 talent. Thrash has been a #1 but makes a fantastic 2/3. We are flush at WR, trading Gardner for value today just makes sense. Given a trade for rising DL talent or a high pick next year and I think it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by TC4 Yes he was, but not for the price we paid for him Yeah, and NOT for us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montilar Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Come on guys, Russell is the diamond in the rough we've been seeking for so long. He's going to blow all the others away. :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by KirkNC I have a feeling that all the love for the Redskin receivers will be proven to be well merited. That is why I am still in favor of trading Gardner, and that is no diss on him. Gardner is a serviceable #1 and a strong 2. That being said it is why he is the guy to trade, because his talent is documented in service. McCants gets the love because we see something special there. Jacobs gets the love because he really does have #1 talent. Thrash has been a #1 but makes a fantastic 2/3. We are flush at WR, trading Gardner for value today just makes sense. Given a trade for rising DL talent or a high pick next year and I think it makes sense. Agreed on all points, especially the "diss" part. It's not a diss at all. It's a luxury to have this many good WRs. Having said that.......which teams are WR weak and DL strong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skns4life Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 about Cliff....whats gonna happen to him....he might not make the team but do you guys think some other team will pick him up??? with his speed, why didnt we use him to return kicks (before we got Thrash)? what number on the depth chart do you think he'd be on another team....say a team that badly needs a wide reciever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 It feels good to be able to argue about good depth at a skill position. Spurrier's NFL legacy might be that of the greatest WR talent evaluator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DaysLatr Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by skns4life #1=coles #2= gardner (he's been a #1 reciever in spurriers crap system) #3= Mcants #4=jacobs (he still hasnt proven anything....even his TD catch in Dallas looked like it hit the ground....not saying that he cant be good) Where's the love for James Thrash? He was a very good performer as our 3 guy in the slot during his last season here and then stepped up and did a decent job as a starter when Westbrook and Conell went down. I really think Thrash's veteran demeanor will get him in Gibbs' good graces. (I also don't like to think we traded for him for no reason). I think he'll win the 3 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Originally posted by goldenster95 Jacobs apparently hasn’t lost any of his speed, and the added weight should help him get off the line better, something that hurt him as a rookie. Getting off the line? You mean getting off the bench. Sometimes detailed comments like this just smack of a writer being uninformed. A receiver adds ten pounds in the offseason translates into him having problems getting off the line. I bet this guy hasn't seen one stitch of film on Jacobs last year, even if there is only about ten seconds worth. :point2sky I love that smilie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Gardner won't be back in 2005, it is vital that Jacobs, McCants or Thrash show the capability to step up and be the #2 WR here in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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