EvoSkins Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2004/04/22/latest_patriots_draft_rumors/ Latest Patriots draft rumors By Boston.com Staff | April 22, 2004 The acquisition of Corey Dillon might not be the only Patriots move before Saturday’s NFL Draft. CBS SportsLine’s Pete Prisco reported today that the Pats were considering trading their second first-round pick (No. 31) and their second-round pick (No. 63) to Miami for the 20th overall selection. The Pats would then package that pick with their other first-round selection (No. 21, from Baltimore) to send to the Redskins in return for the No. 5 overall pick in the draft. With that pick, it’s expected New England would select either University of Miami safety Sean Taylor or Virginia Tech cornerback DeAngelo Hall. New England has been rumored to be very interested in Taylor for the last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness09 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Not gonna happen. We would end up with a bunch of picks, but no studs that could come in right away and fill voids for us. The Pats are really starting to bother me...not as much as Philly, but they are almost equal to the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I was dreading this kind of switcharoo......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINtil8tin Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 The pats can kiss my ass! :moon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 The #20 and #21 wouldn't be enough for the #5. They'd have to throw in at least a 2nd rounder to make it work. Of course, then you could deal the #21 and Rod Gardner to the Bills for the #13 and get Wilfork or one of the DEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citigent Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 not enough to even take seriously , i dont even know the chart value but if either k2 or taylor on the board a team will have to blow the skins away with an offer.( and that won't blow anyone away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Just because the Patriots get the #s 20 and 21 overall picks don't mean the Redskins will take them for the #5 overall if they offer them to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsRback04 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I can see us being tempted. No impact players (maybe) but lots of talent available in that range and the high to mid 2nd. We may just do a Beathard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammino Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 From some of the charts i have seen the 5th pick is worth 1800 points.. the 20 and 21 is worth 900 and 875... which leaves us with abotu 225.... this equates to a third rounder which they have I believe... If we do this, it is actually a very very good idea.. we can fill more holes and spend less money while doing it.. and i would advice to do it... With these picks we will miss out in some of the bigger name players but we could pick up any number of players such as in DT: Randy Starks, Darnell Dockett, Marcus Tubbs, Donnel Washington, etc etc.. We could get Sean Jones for safety which is the second rated safety with the other pick.... or we could pick up any of the other great prospects out there.. remember this is a deep draft.... Furthermore, we would get another pick in the 3rd where we could get another player that can be a real contributor.. I would do this trade if it was up to me.. I mean put all your marbles on one player who can bang or bust or have 3 players who can bang or bust (minus the hype) ? I would go with the latter especially with our cap situation in a couple of years and the wholes we still have this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Saying the Skins might trade down from #5 for both of the Patriots picks. Dumb...it would take more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoSkins Posted April 23, 2004 Author Share Posted April 23, 2004 Comcast SportsNEt just mentioned the rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 whoops.....please delete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieInferior Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 With NE our 5th for the 20 and 21st after they trade w/ Miami. No Ty Law Mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I agree. It wouldn't be such a bad move if they threw in a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsRback04 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by sammino From some of the charts i have seen the 5th pick is worth 1800 points.. the 20 and 21 is worth 900 and 875... which leaves us with abotu 225.... this equates to a third rounder which they have I believe... If we do this, it is actually a very very good idea.. we can fill more holes and spend less money while doing it.. and i would advice to do it... With these picks we will miss out in some of the bigger name players but we could pick up any number of players such as in DT: Randy Starks, Darnell Dockett, Marcus Tubbs, Donnel Washington, etc etc.. We could get Sean Jones for safety which is the second rated safety with the other pick.... or we could pick up any of the other great prospects out there.. remember this is a deep draft.... Furthermore, we would get another pick in the 3rd where we could get another player that can be a real contributor.. I would do this trade if it was up to me.. I mean put all your marbles on one player who can bang or bust or have 3 players who can bang or bust (minus the hype) ? I would go with the latter especially with our cap situation in a couple of years and the wholes we still have this year. Actually the math would work out to 1800 vs. 1775 but I would still want a pot sweetener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 From some of the charts i have seen the 5th pick is worth 1800 points.. the 20 and 21 is worth 900 and 875... which leaves us with abotu 225....[/Quote]Based on what you said, it only leaves a difference of 25 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammino Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 if you read my post more carefully i said we would be left off about 225 points.. which equates to a third rounder.. see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by Buddha The #20 and #21 wouldn't be enough for the #5. They'd have to throw in at least a 2nd rounder to make it work. :ditto: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammino Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 oops your right, I mistyped that twice lol well then it would equate to a 6th rounder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Originally posted by Buddha The #20 and #21 wouldn't be enough for the #5. They'd have to throw in at least a 2nd rounder to make it work. Of course, then you could deal the #21 and Rod Gardner to the Bills for the #13 and get Wilfork or one of the DEs. 20th and 21st are a combined 1650 and the #5 is 1700 and the 122nd pick is worth 50. I know you know this, im just making it clear for others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammino Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 actually different people have different charts example number one: http://www.nfldraftview.com/tvchart.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Nobody would be left at 20 and 21, not our safeties, our tight ends, or our d linemen. A thought would be Vilma but we fixed the MLB spot today. We could take Troupe at TE there. But there really wouldnt be anybody there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammino Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 a lot of good defensive tackles and tightends will be available in that range still like i said above dockett, tubbs, starks, washington,..... postiong we need.. some good de as in odom and hill... safeties mainly sean jones... we would be filling more holes i think.. its smarter and cheaper.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieSkinsFan Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I think New England would have to at least throw in a couple of Day 2 picks in order for this trade to happen. As it stands now they aren't offering us enough for the #5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 No.20 PickMiami Dolphins Trade with Patriots Apr. 21 - The league's most creative draft tandem, Patriots coach Bill Belichick and vice president of personnel Scott Pioli, not only have a lot of choices but also a lot of irons in the fire, it seems. One rumor has the Pats trading the last pick in the first round (No. 32 overall) and second (No. 63 overall) to Miami for the Dolphins' first-rounder, No. 20. That would give New England the 20th and 21st choices. They would try to parlay those two first-rounders to move significantly up the board, for cornerback DeAngelo Hall or safety Sean Taylor. There is also talk that Washington owner Dan Snyder recently spoke to the Pats, inquiring about might it might take to deal for disgruntled cornerback Ty Law. -- Len Pasquarelli this is like the third thread on the subject :laugh: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58362 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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