SKINtil8tin Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Adu and DC United are about to start against the NY/NJ Metrostars. This is the most soccer I've watched since MLS started. This kid is so exciting you just wait for him to touch the ball. Always paid attention to how United did, but I never followed them like I do now. Adu is gonna change the game and has already revived thousands of sleeping fans!:yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitity Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I didn't get to catch the game, but my brother text-messaged me to inform me that Adu scored in the 75th min. That must be an amazing feeling to be 14 and score in a pro-soccer game. Good for him, I hope he does well. It looks like DC United may have a decent year this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 It was a real ugly goal - the defender totally whiffed on the centering pass, and Freddy was in the right place at the right time. He had good position on his defender and just pushed the ball in low. United lost the game though, mostly due to some poor defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Adu really hasn't shown me anything that makes me believe he is "something special". He isn't even starting. I've watched two United games thus far this year, and being a soccer player myself, I really haven't seen anything from Freddy. He is only 14 though, playing against people twice his age. I'll give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thew Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Adu really hasn't shown me anything that makes me believe he is "something special". Well you're pretty much alone in the world then. At 14 he's the highest paid player in his league and he's also turned down more money than he's currently making to play over in Europe. If he hasn't shown you anything it can only because you haven't been watching. I think you should give him time too and I also think DC United should take it very slow with Freddy. 14 against 17 year olds or even 19 year olds as he has played in international play is a few steps up but pro players in their 30's is nuts.... Kobe Bryant for example was 18 years old playing against pro's and the Lakers only played him a few minutes a night the first year. Fredy could wait 4 years before he was up to Bryant's age... It's just nuts to start the kid. Bring him along slowly and let him mature into the best player in the world, which many foreign soccer experts are predicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Originally posted by thew Well you're pretty much alone in the world then. At 14 he's the highest paid player in his league and he's also turned down more money than he's currently making to play over in Europe. If he hasn't shown you anything it can only because you haven't been watching. I think you should give him time too and I also think DC United should take it very slow with Freddy. 14 against 17 year olds or even 19 year olds as he has played in international play is a few steps up but pro players in their 30's is nuts.... Kobe Bryant for example was 18 years old playing against pro's and the Lakers only played him a few minutes a night the first year. Fredy could wait 4 years before he was up to Bryant's age... It's just nuts to start the kid. Bring him along slowly and let him mature into the best player in the world, which many foreign soccer experts are predicting. so what if he is the highest paid player!?! He got that contract before he even played a pro game.... And as for "pro" league... This is still the MLS which ranks about as high as the 2nd division in Ukraine... The Media is hyping Adu because its big money for a dead league... Ive watched soccer all my life and this kid isnt that great... Raul was scoring in the Spanish La Liga at 16 and Figo was a phenom at 15. This is an American story that is trying to breath life into a dead animal... In Europe and South America there is a Freddy Adu on every block... And for that "contract offer" from european teams, they give that exact same contract out to 6 year old brazilian kids every year... BTW I saw that goal... He was three feet in front of basically an empty net... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Originally posted by xFarbodx The Media is hyping Adu because its big money for a dead league... Ive watched soccer all my life and this kid isnt that great... Raul was scoring in the Spanish La Liga at 16 and Figo was a phenom at 15. This is an American story that is trying to breath life into a dead animal... In Europe and South America there is a Freddy Adu on every block... And for that "contract offer" from european teams, they give that exact same contract out to 6 year old brazilian kids every year... BTW I saw that goal... He was three feet in front of basically an empty net... - Raul and Figo are AMAZING players. So claiming they have accomplished more then Freddy is to be expected. They also received superior training from a younger age then Freddy. - Freddy has not been offered the standard offer to play in Europe. He's been offered more then the average player several times and isn't expected to last in MLS more then a few years. - I'm from South America and I can tell you easily that there is NOT a freddy on every block. Fact is those teams are built on players with much less raw potential then freddy but because of good coaching and great feel for the game they develope into great team players. Look at how he did in the sub 17 in international play and tell the other teams were all even with Freddy. - The goal was VERY impressive for a 14 year old. Almost everyone knows that a key element of a great athlete is awareness. Dispite the fact he has a defender twice his age and much more experienced with him every step he was in the right place to receive the cross. I don't know if you play soccer but it's a defenders job to make sure you don't get position on him, the fact a 14 year old is able to be there is impressive for his experience level. - Someone said the defender wiffed and the goal was wide open.....news flash, when you make a crossing pass it's your job to put it out of the defenders reach.....the hard part is having someone deep enough to convert the pass. If they are there such goals always 'look easy'.....looks can be decieving. Go play a pick up game sometime and try that play yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Originally posted by xFarbodx so what if he is the highest paid player!?! He got that contract before he even played a pro game.... And as for "pro" league... This is still the MLS which ranks about as high as the 2nd division in Ukraine... The Media is hyping Adu because its big money for a dead league... Ive watched soccer all my life and this kid isnt that great... Raul was scoring in the Spanish La Liga at 16 and Figo was a phenom at 15. This is an American story that is trying to breath life into a dead animal... In Europe and South America there is a Freddy Adu on every block... And for that "contract offer" from european teams, they give that exact same contract out to 6 year old brazilian kids every year... BTW I saw that goal... He was three feet in front of basically an empty net... Well put... I agree with you %100... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Freddy hasn't impressed you yet? I play soccer as well, for the Richmond Strikers..and I can tell you that kid has AMAZING touch. Did you not see him juke the hell out of Eddie Pope? He had an awesome game against L.A. last week..and although I didn't see too much of the 2nd half yesterday, he looked good out there. Remember he is playing against pro-athletes at the age of 14! Take any U-15 Premier player from across the country and put them in Freddy's position..they would absolutely get eaten alive. Freddy has definately exceeded my expectations. I feel as if he will score another 6 or 7 goals this season, and for a 14 year old..that is pretty remarkable, even though he is probably playing in one of the poorest (talent wise) leagues in the world..to be playing the way he is against players twice his age is simply remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thew Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 The Media is hyping Adu because its big money for a dead league... I played soccer for decades and I could not disagree with you more. Freddie is a legitamate superstar in the making. He doesn't look out of place in the pro game at all and he's 14!! Give him a few more years and he will be a legitamate stud... Ive watched soccer all my life and this kid isnt that great... Raul was scoring in the Spanish La Liga at 16 and Figo was a phenom at 15. Freddie is 14! The difference between 14 and 16 is huge. the difference between 16 and 18 is huge. and Freddie is playing against 20 and 30 year old men..... And for that "contract offer" from european teams, they give that exact same contract out to 6 year old brazilian kids every year... That's just a stupid comment. Freddie turned down 700k a year from an english premier league team and a multi million dollar deal with a division one Italian team. Those are not offers that are regularly given to 11, and 12 year old kids which is how old Freddie was when he recieved the offers... Freddie isn't going to be in MLS for very long. Instead of just talking trash you should really start watching this kid. When he makes it big in the European leagues you're going to be kicking yourself.... BTW I saw that goal... He was three feet in front of basically an empty net... Then you saw the wrong goal. The goal I saw had the goalie and a defender between Freddie and the net. The ball was to the defender and freddie played through the defender to score. It was a fine agressive play by a youngster who wasn't being timid at all against grown men..... Oh and about the talent level in MLS. You know doesn't take too much talent to be a goon. The challenge for a great football player in any league in the world isn't going head to head with the few other great players. The challenge is being tough enough to take the constant harrasment by lesser players struggling to keep the great one from achieving. Pele would constantly get roughed up whether he was playing in the world cup for the Brazilian National team or the New York Cosmos. A 14 year old kid who doesn't look out of place playeing with professional athleates is just amazing..... I hope they keep bringing him along slow so nobody feels a need to break the kid in two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I've gotta agree with Destino and Warpath. What Freddie has done thus far is amazing. Having played soccer in my younger days, and coaching youth soccer (third year) I see a lot of kids his age. He's a natural, is going up against grown men, and holding his own. Destino's point about being in the proper place to recieve the cross hit's it right on the head. You can have all the ball handeling skills in the world, but without a good head for the game there useless. I coach U-12, and spring season is a short season with small sided teams on short fields. 6 VS 6, so there's a lot of ball contact for a kid to showcase their skills. You don't see kids with the type of skills Freddie has. I catch some of the U-18 boys select games, and you still don't see the skills in that age group. For our area of the nation, I would say we have exceptional trainers, so it's not the coaching. Kids like Freddie are very few, and far between :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miragv Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I am a fan of all sports, including soccer, and I would love for US soccer to be up there with the likes of Germany and Brazil. If Adu lives up to his hype we will get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchuck Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Im not a soccer fan but from the games ive peeped in on, what strikes me is this dudes speed!!! Man he can fly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclectic Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Ive watched soccer all my life and this kid isnt that great i've played against him and believe me he is amazing Raul was scoring in the Spanish La Liga at 16 and Figo was a phenom at 15. he was 17 and four months which is a huge difference as thew pointed out figo was a phemon in the youth leagues at 15 but didn't suit up in the portuguese championship until he was 17 oh and btw it's nice to see you using raul and figo as your examples considering they were both name fifa world players of the year it will be nice to see freddie win it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Originally posted by eclectic i've played against him and believe me he is amazing he was 17 and four months which is a huge difference as thew pointed out figo was a phemon in the youth leagues at 15 but didn't suit up in the portuguese championship until he was 17 oh and btw it's nice to see you using raul and figo as your examples considering they were both name fifa world players of the year it will be nice to see freddie win it as well Uhh when was Raul Fifa Player of the Year? Guess that was part of the dream world you live in... My point is that you are comparing him to other MLS players... Im sure Kobe Bryant could have played against the national team of Laos when he was 14 too... Im just saying the only place where they even mention his name is America... Im still laughing at the highest paid player in MLS argument... You know who was the highest paid player before Adu?? Thats what I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Ive been watching him her in Bradenton for the last couple of years, both at the academy and with the Nats. And let me tell any doubters, he's the real deal. Is he Pele? No. But noone is. Is he going to be the greatest US soccer player of all time? If he stays healthy, there is no doubt in my mind that he will. One of the strengths of our National team over the last decade has been backline defense and keeper. And Ive watched him as a 13 year old and as a 14 year old, make these world class players look downright stupid at times. Destino is dead on. It's not his talent and ballskills that are impressive. It's his feel and vision that stuns everyone. That, along with sprinters speed makes him very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 I can't either maybe it is because he is 20+ :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 We haven't banned this cr@p yet? Soccer is great for those suffering from insomnia. Adu is the only reason (home n garden) HGTV isnt beating MLS in the ratings. I went to a riot and a soccer game broke out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Originally posted by NavyDave We haven't banned this cr@p yet? Soccer is great for those suffering from insomnia. Adu is the only reason (home n garden) HGTV isnt beating MLS in the ratings. I went to a riot and a soccer game broke out. Don't you have a cave drawing to work on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINtil8tin Posted April 19, 2004 Author Share Posted April 19, 2004 Soccer isn't nearly as popular in the US as they are in other countries because of the lack of professional expectations. The MLS is a baby in comparison to leagues from around the world. It's silly to try and compare them. Lots of kids play soccer growing up but the sport loses out to football, baseball, and basketball towards high school and college. The sport has been picking up more interest every year and has revived soccer fans all across the country. A player like Adu will make lots of people turn on their sets and watch him play. He is the type of player that can save the sport and make it exciting to watch. At 14, the kid is a decent player and is getting better with every game. Even if you didn't know he was 14, he still has a game that is deserving of professional soccer. Many can say that they weren't impressed by that goal he scored, that it was lucky and an easy goal. If you had really played soccer before, you know how difficult it is to score a goal. This 14 yr old did it 3 games into his career. I think about how good of a player I was at 14, hell 18, and couldn't comprehend what Adu is accomplishing right now. I know 14 yr olds that can't tie their own shoes. So for all you haters out there, you can hate all you want. It's OK because this kid doesn't need to call you for advice when he's making history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Yeah the interest picks up with the daily run for the border but even kids who are dragged to soccer camp and games eventually grow up and wisely move on to baseball, basketball and football. Heck Lacrosse, field hockey is more exciting than soccer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Originally posted by NavyDave Yeah the interest picks up with the daily run for the border but even kids who are dragged to soccer camp and games eventually grow up and wisely move on to baseball, basketball and football. Heck Lacrosse, field hockey is more exciting than soccer - Ah yes, baseball. I hear 4 out of 5 drug addicts agree, it's the best! - Basketball is awesome, great role models for kids (and it damn well better be being that the NBA fathers about 25% of new borns in the US each year). - Football is the best, there is no getting around that. - Lacrosse is is amazingly violent.....and still no one watches it. heh. It's a lame version of hockey. - Field hockey? I watched a lot of that in highschool. Then I'd watch womens soccer practice, cheerleading practice, etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 And yet none of those sports players or coaches have to worry about being executed for losing a game. Soccer has groupies and a high number of bast@rds being born also, its just that no one cares since it happens in Brazil as well as other parts of Latin america. And weed cocaine use in europe ie the Nertherlands, denmark and part of germany by soccer players arent frowned upon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINtil8tin Posted April 19, 2004 Author Share Posted April 19, 2004 Originally posted by NavyDave And yet none of those sports players or coaches have to worry about being executed for losing a game. Soccer has groupies and a high number of bast@rds being born also, its just that no one cares since it happens in Brazil as well as other parts of Latin america. And weed cocaine use in europe ie the Nertherlands, denmark and part of germany by soccer players arent frowned upon Uhh, yeah, uhh...I was just talking about how good Freddy Adu played soccer...uhh...ok then...:doh: It's kind of wierd how this thread about a soccer phenom transformed into the sexual promiscuity and social drug choices of professional athletes. It's cool though, whatever you guys want to talk about. :thud: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.