TC4 Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 It is indeed nice to see that over at the GangGreen.com, some folks over there do have hope that they can "win it all" in 2004: http://forums.theganggreen.com/index.php?showtopic=17244 My favorite post is from Jessie, who seems to be the bucket of cold water on these embers of hope: "Does anyone remember we have Hackett on Offense and Herm managing the clock? Is it Players or is it Coaches that get the team to the dance. Coaches have the edge for me. The elite coaches would eat Herm alive when it comes to game plans. Jessie" :jetssuck: :jetssuck: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 well there ya go.......one avg rec. and they're back to the top...:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 A 2nd Rounder for Mccreins? that sounds like a big over payment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskns21 Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 I really wanted to see what they were saying. Unfortunately you now must be registered to view the forums. Beyond that, they aren't accepting new registrations. Sux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCS:BraveCaringSoul Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Somebody who's registered there should post the thread for the rest of us saps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCS:BraveCaringSoul Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 I miss my morning ganggreen laugh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowtrain Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 With the recent additions of Barton, McCareins and Barrett to quickly fill the team's biggest holes within 48 hours, I'd imagine it wouldn't be quite as a amusing for you to read. But feel free to stop by here instead: http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted March 7, 2004 Author Share Posted March 7, 2004 Originally posted by BCS: BigContractSnyder I miss my morning ganggreen laugh!!!! Well I went over there last night to respond about a thread about the Redskins and the salary cap, and now there are calls for me to be banned :rotflmao: It probally had something to do with me reponding to something by telling them how easy it was to make fun of a team who has not won a Super Bowl since before Woodstock Then, when I was accused of being a "closet Jets fan" :laugh: my reply to that was that I would never become a Jets fan because I couldn't afford the therapy I would require for the next 30 or so years :rotflmao: It's just so much fun over there sometimes :jetssuck: :jetssuck: :jetssuck: :jetssuck: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Isn't somebody here registered to Ganggreen? Couldn't you just give us your password or something to get in, or is it that u can't have two people signed on under the same screen name. Either way, i really miss the ganggreen blastphemy. It was so much fun to read. sigh* ---------------------------- 0-16, 19-0, skins fan till i die!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Originally posted by Flowtrain With the recent additions of Barton, McCareins and Barrett to quickly fill the team's biggest holes within 48 hours, I'd imagine it wouldn't be quite as a amusing for you to read. But feel free to stop by here instead: http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/ Hey, I think Barton is a pretty solid pickup, but, let's not go crazy here Flow. Barton, while a sound pickup, is coming to you from the No. 30 defense in football. Let's not pretend he's a world beater, ok? I mean, he didn't solve many problems for the Raiders, right? And, he's clearly the most accomplished player you signed of the three. McCareins for a No. 2 pick is just strange. Maybe he'll prove worth it, but, thusfar he's not proven to be worth that great a price. Barrett can't possible be considered to fill any hole but one on the bench between the punter and kicker. Starting in Arizona isn't exactly a badge of honor. He MAY not be as good as our No. 3 corner assuming we get Butler. The fact that the Jets have to take their pickings from second tier free agents has to be a cause of concern for you. You can't seem to be serious players for anyone who's considered a top player available. It must frustrate you. So much so you actually say this trio quickly fill the team's biggest holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowtrain Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Originally posted by Art Hey, I think Barton is a pretty solid pickup, but, let's not go crazy here Flow. Barton, while a sound pickup, is coming to you from the No. 30 defense in football. Let's not pretend he's a world beater, ok? I mean, he didn't solve many problems for the Raiders, right? And, he's clearly the most accomplished player you signed of the three. I've gotten to see more of Barton than I cared to since the Jets have faced the Raiders about 6 times in the last 4 seasons. He's a tough, hard-nosed player with attitude and great sideline to sideline quickness. Raiders fans annointed him the best player on their D last year, which is taken with a grain of salt given the state of their D. But still, the D included guys like Woodson, Woodson, Harris, Coleman, Buchanon, etc. Also, I think it's just a bit early to forget that Barton was a key player on the same #3 D v. the rush that went to the Super Bowl the previous year. Whereas we were bogged down with the likes of Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones, it's now Barton, Cowart, Hobson and, at times, J.Abraham -- that's an improvement. McCareins for a No. 2 pick is just strange. Maybe he'll prove worth it, but, thusfar he's not proven to be worth that great a price. McCareins is an explosive young WR who led the AFC in YPC. With just 47 receptions on a crowded WR corps, he managed to surpass our mutual friend Coles in TDs and 40+ yd receptions. As a fan of the team that values draft picks so little, and favors NFL experience over the crap shoot draft, I'd think that you could appreciate the fact that we'd be hard pressed to locate a second round WR prepared to make the impact McCareins will. There's already incredible speed with Moss, but the Jets desparately needed a big target to compliment him. Well, JMac is a 6'2" almost as fast. If not for the fact that the Titans weren't bent over the cap barrell and also have a Pro Bowl WR, and two excellent prospects in Calico and Bennett, McCareins would still be there. Just as the Skins felt they couldn't likely land a Lav Coles at #13, the Jets weren't likely finding a McCareins at #42. Barrett can't possible be considered to fill any hole but one on the bench between the punter and kicker. Starting in Arizona isn't exactly a badge of honor. How many players can you name off hand on the Cardinals DL? Exactly. The Cards were 3rd worst in the NFL at getting to the QB which created a less than enviable situation for its DBs who were asked to cover WRs for an eternity each down. I have no idea how Barrett will turn out, and I'm not even convinced that he'll even start over a first rounder, or may not get moved to FS. But I do know that our new DC (and former Ravens DB coach), as well as our HC and former DB himself, not only OK'd the pickup, but also passed on some excellent household names who were still available on the market. These guys with DB expertise saw something out in the desert that caught their eye. Something tells me that with 4 first rounders on the DL and DB specialist coaches, his chance to succeed will be significantly improved. What's reassuring is watching the Raiders fans, Titans fans (and to a lesser extent the Cards fans), cry and moan following the loss of these promising young players. These 3 replacements provide preliminary answers at WR, LB, CB and allow much greater flexibility heading into the draft. No, as you point out, they may not be "first-tier" perennial Pro Bowlers like Rasby, Daniels, Washington and Butler. But the Jets are entering a new era, cutting about 7 30+ old veterans and replacing them with youth, speed, and character guys who want to play for Herman Edwards. It's the right approach to take with a team that reached the playoffs two years straight, before age and lack of speed caught up with them and became a liability in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Art, keep signing the big names and keep racking up those under :500 years. Your franchise just doesn't get it. You probably know little and have seen less of McCaerins, so your assesment of him as usual is flawed and spun into your anti-jet propagandal. Same goes for Barton. Raise that tinfoil trophy high in the air because once again you've overpaid for the Big names and will most liley end up with a big pile of dung come september Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Redskin Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 Originally posted by Equality A 2nd Rounder for Mccreins? that sounds like a big over payment and it is considered the deepest WR draft ever. at the end of next year you'll be able to look back at a handfull of quality WRs (picks after #40),who are already considered better than mccariens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 already considered better than Mccaeirins? That's pretty interesting considering not one of them has stepped foot on an NFL field yet. How about your boy Taylor Jacobs, a second rounder, he couldn't hold Mccaerins jock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Originally posted by NYC already considered better than Mccaeirins? That's pretty interesting considering not one of them has stepped foot on an NFL field yet. How about your boy Taylor Jacobs, a second rounder, he couldn't hold Mccaerins jock. 1969 1969 1969 your drought is getting to be as long as the Lions, or maybe it was the curse of the Drunk Namath. Jacobs may very well be better we shall see this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Redskin Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 to nyc, I know it sounds a little funny how I said it but I said basically in hindsight you would be saying that some of the recievers taken after #40 are actually already better (after their rookie year) than justin is after four or five. I do believe barton is a great pickup for you though. and yes I know hindsight is always 20/20 but I believe you should have taken your chances on a 2nd round draft WR this year. like I said deepest WR draft EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowtrain Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Originally posted by lookoutforlavar yes I know hindsight is always 20/20 but I believe you should have taken your chances on a 2nd round draft WR this year. like I said deepest WR draft EVER. The draft is very deep in terms of top prospect WRs. It's unusual to have 3 WRs in the top 10 - but guess what? The Jets don't have a selection in the top 10. Reggie Williams and Clayton are reaches at #12. So where does that leave the Jets? No team can go into the draft saying we're absolutely taking a WR in the 2nd round as you suggest. If a safety with a first round grade slips to you, you've got to take him -- and then you're left hoping for a talented, but raw 3rd round rookie WR to fill a glaring hole. That's a terrible predicament to put your team in. Instead, come draft day, the Jets are set at WR with two young, fast, steadily improving players, and one sure handed vet. No worries. Santana Moss, Justin McCareins, Wayne Chrebet. If a Roy Williams miraculously slides down to #12, well that's just gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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