Bozman777 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 If you were Qb of the Skins who would you rather have protecting your backside? If Brunell comes aboard Jansen will have that responsibility. Do teams prepare differently for a left handed QB? Seems like corner blitzes would be reversed. I personally think a lefty would be harder to prepare for...Yor thoughts? Boz:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 All the better reason to leave Brunell alone. The RT is primarily a run blocking tackle. Most run plays go to the right side because that's usually where the TE line up. This poses an interesting dilema. Is Jansen a good pass blocker, I can't answer that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanskins Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 I know Jansen is professional but i wonder how he is gonna feel about Mark Brunnel if Pat is traded! I would like to think he would be mature about it and play his heart out but i cant help but wonder about Jon! any thoughts on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Jansen is a solid pass blocker. What he is not is a super quick, athletic tackle that is going to be as effective with a qb dropping back 40 times a game But, that's okay because I think those days are over. Ultimately I think Samuels will restructure his contract with the team and stay when he sees progress being made under Gibbs. Both Samuels and Jansen are players that Gibbs will make better in a new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 But can Jansen protect Brunell's blind side. Is his arms long enough, can he move his feet. Jansen isn't as good as Leon Searcy, and Brunell still got messed up. This whole trade stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 that's what tight ends are for remember that 1991 team that surrendered only 9 sacks? one of the ways that was accomplished was using 275 pound TE Ron Middleton as an extra tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 But we don't have a Middleton this time. Is Jansen better than the RT from the 1991 team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlett316 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by OURYEAR#56 But we don't have a Middleton this time. Is Jansen better than the RT from the 1991 team? Then why not sign a big fat RT and call him a TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanforlife Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 jansen anyday. both did false start alot this yr but samuels is getting ****tier every yr. he gets burned alot. jansen without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 We have to remember that Chris played with a bum knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidPennSkin Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by OURYEAR#56 But we don't have a Middleton this time. Is Jansen better than the RT from the 1991 team? I think we are going to get someone like Middleton. Gibbs will probably get 2 TEs from FA or the draft, one to block and one who can also catch. That was always his MO before, I look for him to continue it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citigent Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 jansen right now he has played better recently, but if samuels plays up to his talent hewould be he better player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sire Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 I know Samuels was hurt but Jansen is a better tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien 91 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by bulldog that's what tight ends are for remember that 1991 team that surrendered only 9 sacks? one of the ways that was accomplished was using 275 pound TE Ron Middleton as an extra tackle Man, seems like Ramsey got sacked 9 times a game last year. Rypien just coasted through 1991 didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Irony of ironies- I think Jansen is a far better pass blocker, while Samuels may even have the edge on run blocking. Jansen neutralizes Strahan, but how many times did Hugh Douglas blow thru Samuels.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Jansen and Samuels didn't neutralize anybody last year. While they may have have some good years in the (long ago) past, they are both suspect at this time. Samuels in particular should have been embarrassed that a waiver wire pickup replaced him without missing a beat... Jansen was b-slapped last year especially by Carolina. He couldnt remember the snap count - the FRIGGIN snap count. The stats on the destructiveness of "unforced errors" was learned long ago by Gibbs. You get in 1st, 2nd or 3rd and long and your probability of success, well , sucks... Jansen wouldnt last beyond the second half of any game last year. He better get the message quick ... or a bus ticket ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFanInTX Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by Parlett316 TBanks fan lol Then why not sign a big fat RT and call him a TE :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Jansen. They both were embarrasing with the false starts last year, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Hey the Boss Hog Buges said he was ecstatic to have both guys. He knows how to coach a line and he saw the film in the season on his consulting gig. We should want both guys. Jansen has never missed a game. Has traditionally played great against guys like Strahan. Everybody lost their confidence last year. Most of the line got a mental block about false starts, but that was partly because SS wanted too many audibles called and PR often let the clock get down too far while audibling. There was no focus and concentration, bad schemes (the line usually gets blamed for the sack - more than half last year were on the rb's, te's and the qb holding the ball too long), bad coaching, bad preparation (we never were ready for unusual blitz packages), etc. We all just need to throw last year out. Barring injuries, we'll have a great Oline this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 There wont be that many false starts because we wont audible every effing down and Janse had two years of pass protecting every down. With Gibbs there will be an element of surprise when we pass to keep defenses guessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Neither... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Is there any chance of switching the two guys now that Brunell looks to be coming here? Samuels would still protect the QB's blindside, but on the opposite end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chet06 Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 Originally posted by yank Jansen and Samuels didn't neutralize anybody last year. While they may have have some good years in the (long ago) past, they are both suspect at this time. Samuels in particular should have been embarrassed that a waiver wire pickup replaced him without missing a beat... Jansen was b-slapped last year especially by Carolina. He couldnt remember the snap count - the FRIGGIN snap count. The stats on the destructiveness of "unforced errors" was learned long ago by Gibbs. You get in 1st, 2nd or 3rd and long and your probability of success, well , sucks... Jansen wouldnt last beyond the second half of any game last year. He better get the message quick ... or a bus ticket ... Mainly a result of shoddy coaching where nobody new their assignments or were ...."assignment unsure." Nobody new who was picking up who and a lot of the time the sacks came away from the D front four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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