Art Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 As we all thought, trades in the NFL can't start until March 3. The ONLY way the stories on Brunell make sense is if that knowledge was false knowledge and trades could take place now. But, knowing that isn't the case should clarify what's happening in the pursuit for Brunell. Think it through fellas. Obviously the Skins are a team that wants a good veteran QB. Whether as a backup or starter or competitor, who knows, or cares. Brunell would be among the best available. Jacksonville has to pay this guy $2 million on March 1 just to keep him around. So, the presumption is that he'll be cut. The Redskins decide to slip in a few sweet nothings. "How about a fourth rounder," or whatever, we whisper. This means, in football parlance, you keep him until March 3, sign him and give him $2 million that counts against your cap, then give him to us for a middle pick, while you eat that cap hit and make it easier for us to work out a deal. Obviously, this isn't exactly a sweet deal for Jacksonville. But, it gets them thinking. What would make it worth keeping this guy past March 1 in trade? They leak the talks. That gets teams like Miami who assumed they'd have it easy in free agency to come to the table. The Jags even plant that teams are considering a second-round pick. This is THEIR price for eating the $2 million. No team has offered that to them. Period. No team would have to. The Jags aren't going to carry this guy all year. They aren't going to carry him at $2 million either. You see, unless they have a gentleman's agreement with a team BEFORE March 1 for that second-rounder, they are cutting Brunell. If they hit March 1 without a team promising to give that No. 2 pick, then they wouldn't dare risk keeping him. Simply put, once March 3 hits, Brunell becomes worth a No. 4 or No. 5 pick again. Other QBs are free agents. Teams will make moves for them. Then Jacksonville eats a cap hit for a guy they could have gotten almost the same limited amount for without taking a cap hit. While it IS possible a team that is desperate for Brunnel -- including the Skins -- could make the second-round promise, the fact is, it's HIGHLY unlikely to happen. And I'd put money on the fact that Brunnel will be released on Feb. 28, because the Jags simply can't risk holding on to him. On Feb. 9 they can talk all they want about keeping him. That helps them get some team to promise. If they can't get that, he's a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Master Jay Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Very well put Art and to think the off season has just started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks for droppin' some serious knowledge on us there Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I posted a little earlier something smelled fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanders 83 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Very interesting take on the whole thing. I certainly think you could be right, it just sucks having to wait a month to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Hog Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Good post. In summary, we'll see what the Jags are made of when push comes to shove and it's crunch time for them. Right now they are playing the role of one of those players who likes to talk a big game prior to even stepping on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I think that this move still could happen. That is why we have all been giddy like schoolgirls that Gibbs is our coach again! He might be the only guy that could get Brunell here, for minimal cost, trade and pencil him in as a backup. Oh and still have the ability to make Brunell happy about it!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnacpa Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Great insight Art ... I do think that some teams may step up the effort to acquire him and I wonder if the Redskins may have thrown out the idea of up to a second rounder if they could get JAX to help convince Brunell to take a backup role. What are the Redskins draft choices this year? I know that we have a # 1 & 2, but after that, I thought that we only have a couple more. Do we have a 4th round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Alright. Insert " I of course knew that all along" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunner Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Now that the word is out , we may sit back and watch how it plays out. that would be the smart thing to do. Don't forget 3 weeks ago everyone thought Brunell would be cut.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Or do me a favor lets not talk about this for 2 more weeks unless we know something real. Come March 1 we will know what really happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Amen Jbooma. The speculation and the conspiracy theories running wild, are getting old. Personally I think that Brunell would be good for Patrick. Although I don;t believe that he will onseat Ramsey as our starter. :thumbsup: Great insight as usual Art.:applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Art As we all thought, trades in the NFL can't start until March 3. The ONLY way the stories on Brunell make sense is if that knowledge was false knowledge and trades could take place now. But, knowing that isn't the case should clarify what's happening in the pursuit for Brunell. Think it through fellas. Obviously the Skins are a team that wants a good veteran QB. Whether as a backup or starter or competitor, who knows, or cares. Brunell would be among the best available. Jacksonville has to pay this guy $2 million on March 1 just to keep him around. So, the presumption is that he'll be cut. The Redskins decide to slip in a few sweet nothings. "How about a fourth rounder," or whatever, we whisper. This means, in football parlance, you keep him until March 3, sign him and give him $2 million that counts against your cap, then give him to us for a middle pick, while you eat that cap hit and make it easier for us to work out a deal. Obviously, this isn't exactly a sweet deal for Jacksonville. But, it gets them thinking. What would make it worth keeping this guy past March 1 in trade? They leak the talks. That gets teams like Miami who assumed they'd have it easy in free agency to come to the table. The Jags even plant that teams are considering a second-round pick. This is THEIR price for eating the $2 million. No team has offered that to them. Period. No team would have to. The Jags aren't going to carry this guy all year. They aren't going to carry him at $2 million either. You see, unless they have a gentleman's agreement with a team BEFORE March 1 for that second-rounder, they are cutting Brunell. If they hit March 1 without a team promising to give that No. 2 pick, then they wouldn't dare risk keeping him. Simply put, once March 3 hits, Brunell becomes worth a No. 4 or No. 5 pick again. Other QBs are free agents. Teams will make moves for them. Then Jacksonville eats a cap hit for a guy they could have gotten almost the same limited amount for without taking a cap hit. While it IS possible a team that is desperate for Brunnel -- including the Skins -- could make the second-round promise, the fact is, it's HIGHLY unlikely to happen. And I'd put money on the fact that Brunnel will be released on Feb. 28, because the Jags simply can't risk holding on to him. On Feb. 9 they can talk all they want about keeping him. That helps them get some team to promise. If they can't get that, he's a free agent. I hate to admit when you're right. But you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Bufford T Justice I hate to admit when you're right. But you're right. Buf, After my posts, something like this should probably be in your sig line. I mean, it's rote when I speak, so, if it must be said, it'd save you time to have it as a staple or something I'm sure . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Don't push it. you're lucky to get this response from me on FedEx! cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Art Buf, After my posts, something like this should probably be in your sig line. I mean, it's rote when I speak, so, if it must be said, it'd save you time to have it as a staple or something I'm sure . And by god when he's rote, he's rote. And you know what? He's rote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 OK. I feel better now. ;) Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Bufford T Justice Don't push it. you're lucky to get this response from me on FedEx! cheers Oh, I don't view it as luck. But, you keep wiggling it little flirt. You used to be so much more. I don't view it as luck when that flashes out in the open. But, perhaps you know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Park City Skins And by god when he's rote, he's rote. And you know what? He's rote. Rote on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Art Oh, I don't view it as luck. But, you keep wiggling it little flirt. You used to be so much more. I don't view it as luck when that flashes out in the open. But, perhaps you know best. are you hitting on me? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Technically all Art did was rehash what some of us said earlier, remember he does read all the posts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Bufford T Justice are you hitting on me? :laugh: Always and forever, Buf. Remember, I believe in the power of love . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Art Always and forever, Buf. Remember, I believe in the power of love . Time to take this to the tailgate, valentine's day is coming soon :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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