bubba9497 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 By Pete Prisco SportsLine.com Senior Writer If the Redskins decide to make changes in their personnel department, don't be shocked to see Tampa Bay personnel director Tim Ruskell coming aboard. Ruskell is well-respected, and rightfully so, and he happens to be good friends with Steve Spurrier. Spurrier is looking to take a more active role in player procurement, and this could help facilitate that. Spurrier has made it known that he does not have a fondness for Vinny Cerrato, the team's director of player personnel. He has referred to him as owner Dan Snyder's "racquetball buddy." http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6935765 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Even Madder Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I know Spurrier dislikes Cerrato, but when did he ever deride him as Snyder's "racquetball buddy"? I don't remember him ever going that far publicly -- even when Waffle was cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 He was trying to Ruskell before last year. I don't know how he gets him in the door. Unless he is embraced by the front office, he won't be of any use. And the FO thinks no improvement is necessary for the FO. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by bubba9497 Spurrier has made it known that he does not have a fondness for Vinny Cerrato, the team's director of player personnel. He has referred to him as owner Dan Snyder's "racquetball buddy." http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6935765 And ol Bugeyes has been refered to as much worse here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Called this one a few wekks ago and it is about a 85% chance of happening. Cerrato was discussing a extension with Snyder in the begining of the season and we havent heard anything about him being signed as of yet. I may be the only one who thinks that Cerratto staying is not set in concrete. Heres how it could work Snyder- steve i want you to fire Helton, Edwards, and stock and bring in more expierenced coaches to replace them. Spurrier replies- Well Mr. Snyder i want you to fire your racquetball buddy and hire a competent G.M. to replace him and i know this guy named Tim Ruskell. dont know what would the outcome will be but it could go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by lavarleap56 Called this one a few wekks ago and it is about a 85% chance of happening. Cerrato was discussing a extension with Snyder in the begining of the season and we havent heard anything about him being signed as of yet. I may be the only one who thinks that Cerratto staying is not set in concrete. Heres how it could work Snyder- steve i want you to fire Helton, Edwards, and stock and bring in more expierenced coaches to replace them. Spurrier replies- Well Mr. Snyder i want you to fire your racquetball buddy and hire a competent G.M. to replace him and i know this guy named Tim Ruskell. I know what I'm asking Santa for this year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by Even Madder I know Spurrier dislikes Cerrato, but when did he ever deride him as Snyder's "racquetball buddy"? I don't remember him ever going that far publicly -- even when Waffle was cut. You are right, Madder. I think that is bull---- from Prisco. I cant believe Spurrier would have said that publicly, even if he really thought it. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidPennSkin Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by lavarleap56 Called this one a few wekks ago and it is about a 85% chance of happening. Cerrato was discussing a extension with Snyder in the begining of the season and we havent heard anything about him being signed as of yet. I may be the only one who thinks that Cerratto staying is not set in concrete. Heres how it could work Snyder- steve i want you to fire Helton, Edwards, and stock and bring in more expierenced coaches to replace them. Spurrier replies- Well Mr. Snyder i want you to fire your racquetball buddy and hire a competent G.M. to replace him and i know this guy named Tim Ruskell. dont know what would the outcome will be but it could go that way. Spurrier is the only person alive that has any leverage over Snyder. The above scenario is our only hope. Snyder is sensitive to his image with the fans and football people in general, but it will take years before fan discontent gets through to Snyder. Spurrier, on the other hand, might be able to get through now. Go for it Steve, tell Danny you will walk if he doesn't get a GM! The fans deserve it! And if Danny calls your bluff and gets a new head coach, what have we lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowghost Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I am going to take the Missouri approach, Show Me. I beleive when it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by lavarleap56 Heres how it could work Snyder- steve i want you to fire Helton, Edwards, and stock and bring in more expierenced coaches to replace them. Spurrier replies- Well Mr. Snyder i want you to fire your racquetball buddy and hire a competent G.M. to replace him and i know this guy named Tim Ruskell. dont know what would the outcome will be but it could go that way. That is exactly how it is going to play out. Snyder is going to say look we need to get rid of some coaches, and Spurrier will say look we need to get rid of Vinny, you promised me a GM now I want to see it :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF4L Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 For the life of me, I can't understand why, after Marty kicked Vinnie's butt to the curb, Dan brings him back and promotes him! Unless Vinnie has some front office skills we haven't heard of yet. Like "under the desk" office skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 The story in the Post said there would be no FO changes. That would seem to indicate that the status quo will prevail there. BUT...what if Cerrato was the source for that? Perhaps he isn't in the loop for what's being planned? I, too, find it very curious that this extension for Cerrato is still being "discussed", when it seemed like a done deal a couple of months ago. If, say, a Ruskell does come on board, does Snyder's role change all that much? From my view, probably not much. I don't get the feeling that he is too involved in deciding what players to get or keep (other than to break stalemates, which is perfectly reasonable, IMO). He just recruits and negotiates deals. I think he would pretty much keep doing the same thing. And I see nothing wrong with that. Of course, I'm sure others take a more cynical view of Snyder's role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Originally posted by lavarleap56 Called this one a few wekks ago and it is about a 85% chance of happening. Cerrato was discussing a extension with Snyder in the begining of the season and we havent heard anything about him being signed as of yet. I may be the only one who thinks that Cerratto staying is not set in concrete. Heres how it could work Snyder- steve i want you to fire Helton, Edwards, and stock and bring in more expierenced coaches to replace them. Spurrier replies- Well Mr. Snyder i want you to fire your racquetball buddy and hire a competent G.M. to replace him and i know this guy named Tim Ruskell. dont know what would the outcome will be but it could go that way. Well, according to Sonny it was Spurrier who actually fired Helton a month ago, and Snyder who talked him into keeping the staff together for the season, thus leading to the infamous "Shyder's meddling again with Joe Bugel" stories. If there's any truth to that, they might both want Helton gone. And I'm not so sure about Edwards. For one thing, a lot of Marvin Lewis's "genius" last year came from Daryl Gardener's playing, a luxury Edwards didn't have. Even then, I don't have the stats but I know the defense gave up a ton of points last year despite its high ranking. I say its more important to keep the DC and scheme together for another season than to dump them for yet another flavor of the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montilar Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Spurrier is the only person alive that has any leverage over Snyder. I imagine Snyders wife would dispute that. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 it has become a yearly rite of early winter for Redskins fans to sit back and think about how a rational, focused and professional offseason can bring the club back into the mainstream of successful NFL franchises Unfortunately, there always seems to be an ingredient missing. this year we signed 11 veteran free agents before camp to improve on a 7-9 record and yet will in all likelihood end up at 5-11 or 6-10 we have a coaching staff with very little NFL experience on it. we have the coach's son as the wide receivers coach. we have Vinny Cerrato, who was booted out of San Francisco, as our face man representing us in deals around the NFL. Better days HAVE to lie ahead somewhere, if only because I can't think of this thing getting any worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 And ol Bugeyes has been refered to as much worse here. Vinny Cerrato= Dan Snyder's cabana boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 SOS doesn't care much for Vinny? At last, some common ground between the ol ball coach and many Skins fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 "raquetball buddy" could be said in a completely benign context, or a very malicious one.... hard to know considering Prisco gives NO CONTEXT for how it was said. This type of rumormongering and contextual manipulation is on par with the type of reporting that goes on in the National Enquirer. Steller stuff Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_good_brotha Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Originally posted by DieselPwr44 Vinny Cerrato= Dan Snyder's cabana boy And Vinny's boyfriend's name is Chuck. It's from the movie "Legally Blonde." The cabana boy had a boyfriend named Chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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