Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I think some people calling for spurrier's head have sorely mistaken a few things..... nobody wins when your QB completes six passes and two interceptions. Nobody. So, I'm just going to ask, since everyone seems to feel that spurrier should be winning, where is the talent? Compare us to a winning team heads up, and you'll see why we have the record we do. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 DB, Part of the problem with completing six passes is the fact that every one of our receivers was covered. Now, we DID have some open guys. Coles was open on a couple and Gardner was open. The talent on this team is that we have a solid receiving core and a good offensive line, especially in the running game -- which is a surprise. Rock seems to have a legitimate chance to make something of himself as well. We've got more talent than many of the teams we've played. Including the Cowboys. We simply lack right now in the design area and it's killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF4L Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 So DB, what's your point? Are you going to rationalize for us some more about how Spurrier really is a heck of a coach and just needs more time? And that the talent vacuum has nothing to do with him? :laugh: you really have been hit too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montilar Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Don't you have that backward? Wasn't there 6 ints and 2 completions? :laugh: (I know there were only 4 ints.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Fewer plays more formations and motions will help as well as GASP get a smashmouth running back, RDE and really look into letting our supposed superstars go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Talent schmalent. We are just a bunch of peices and parts what we lack is a TEAM IDENTITY. playing as a team, being organized, prepared and focused....That would be a nice change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 my point is that QB is the single most important position in football. And art, pardon me while I spill milk through my nose laughing.... "a good offensive line" you're a funny guy. On third and short good offensive lines get thier backs across the marker. We have what is called a "below average" offensive line. I'm willing to forgive them though, because the entire left side of our line is playing for hurt starters, but don't begin to think that what we fielded today on the line was an acceptable team. Good offensive lines make openings for backs and give time to passers so they can move the ball down the field. That didn't really happen today. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by NavyDave Fewer plays more formations and motions will help as well as GASP get a smashmouth running back, RDE and really look into letting our supposed superstars go OK, I'll show my ignorance.......................what the heck is "GASP"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 We've got more talent than many of the teams we've played. Including the Cowboys. We simply lack right now in the design area and it's killing us. The that simply means it comes down to coaching. It has to. If we've got more talent than the 'Girls, then we should've won. And if we lost it shouldn't have been a shutout. It comes down to a coach who isn't afraid to get in his QB's face and make him feel like a completel imbicile on national TV. I'm tired of blaming the players. Sure, they f-cked up. But Spurrier and Co. stands around as if nothing's wrong most the time. Get mad! Yell at your players!!!! QUIT BEING A PU$$Y AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 Um if you think we have more talent than the cowboys you are as dumb as a cowboy fan. Other than linebacker, I cannot think of a single position where we have more talent. Can you name one? -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by DrunkenBoxer my point is that QB is the single most important position in football. And art, pardon me while I spill milk through my nose laughing.... "a good offensive line" you're a funny guy. On third and short good offensive lines get thier backs across the marker. We have what is called a "below average" offensive line. I'm willing to forgive them though, because the entire left side of our line is playing for hurt starters, but don't begin to think that what we fielded today on the line was an acceptable team. Good offensive lines make openings for backs and give time to passers so they can move the ball down the field. That didn't really happen today. -DB I agree. With the exception of Randy Thomas, the Redskins line this year has been sub-par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by DrunkenBoxer Um if you think we have more talent than the cowboys you are as dumb as a cowboy fan. Other than linebacker, I cannot think of a single position where we have more talent. Can you name one? -DB Cowboys WRs are overrated. Redskins CBs are better as well. Overall, the teams are close talent-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I just can't beleive we got shut out... ...by the Pokes.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 Eagles, What exactly makes you think the redskins CB's are better? just how we've played against you? Either our CB's are very good and barely contained thier good recievers, or our CB's are trash for getting beat by the overrated CB recievers. You can't have it both ways. They are either better than us at CB or reciever. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 EVERY team is close talent wise. At the beginning of the year, if you look up and down the Patriots or Eagles roster, you'd be wholly unimpressed. Troy Brown or Tood Pinkston as your number one reciever doesn't look so good stacked up to Coles on paper. Hell, pretty much every team that is having a solid year has an equal amount or less talent on paper than the 'Skins do. The Chiefs? Wow, what a big name WR corps. The Ravens? Damn, their offense is just STACKED with stars. In the era of free agency, there are no more teams that beat another team solely on talent. Every team is on equal footing, and it comes down to the coaching staff to get the most of players. I'm willing to give Spurrier the benefit of the doubt along with one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by DrunkenBoxer Eagles, What exactly makes you think the redskins CB's are better? just how we've played against you? Either our CB's are very good and barely contained thier good recievers, or our CB's are trash for getting beat by the overrated CB recievers. You can't have it both ways. They are either better than us at CB or reciever. -DB They only passed for 108 yards. The Redskins would have done better than that if they had someone capable throwing the ball. Mario Edwards and Terrance Newman are NOT better than Bailey and Smoot. You also have to take into account that Woodson and Williams are much better than Bowen and Iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 Orangeskin, how long you been a skins fan? You sure think like one! We have a big name player, must mean they're good! only, that's not true..... is it? -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 Eagles, okay you're right. Our defense actually played a pretty good game today. you might not know it by lokking at the score, and I just got carried away. However, Dallas managed to go the first half of the year with a significant amount of cover zero. You don't do that unless you have great corners. Art likes to complain about a lack of agression on defense, but when we go cover 1, we get beat deep. It doesn't happen nearly as consistantly to the cowboys. So that points to superior CB play in my mind. Who knows, maybe our D-line is just that bad. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by DrunkenBoxer Orangeskin, how long you been a skins fan? You sure think like one! We have a big name player, must mean they're good! only, that's not true..... is it? -DB I think OS's point was, other teams (big names or not) have lesser talented rosters than the Skins. Say what you will about 'big names', but Troy Brown and Todd Pinkston are NOT better than Coles. Yes, some overvalue people because of name recognition, but you can't detract from them because of name recognition either. Arrington, Coles, Thomas, Smoot (even Bailey--sometimes) are top players at their positions. Trotter is someone who is overrated. Same with Samuels. I suppose it goes both ways. On a completely different note-- Jesus ! Joe Theisman is still talking about Vick in the Giants - Saints game. Bang's cartoon was very appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Originally posted by DrunkenBoxer Eagles, okay you're right. Our defense actually played a pretty good game today. you might not know it by lokking at the score, and I just got carried away. However, Dallas managed to go the first half of the year with a significant amount of cover zero. You don't do that unless you have great corners. Art likes to complain about a lack of agression on defense, but when we go cover 1, we get beat deep. It doesn't happen nearly as consistantly to the cowboys. So that points to superior CB play in my mind. Who knows, maybe our D-line is just that bad. -DB Yes, the Cowboys CB's played a very solid game today. However, I've seen them on multiple occasions get beaten frequently. Mario Edwards is not a starting caliber CB. I think the Skins problem is, they get 0 pressure without blitzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I think our D-line is that bad. We are weakest on both sides of the ball at the line of scrimmage (especially with our OL injuries). Our team is designed for a big passing game and defending the big passing game. Unfortunately, games are won running the ball and defending against the run and we don't have the personnel to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljer Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Our defense actually played a pretty good game today. Wrong. Troy Hambrick....Troy F'ing Hambrick.... 33 for 189 5.7 yd average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 come on, over half of that was after the game was over. While the game still counted, they were generating several three and outs. They gave up after I did. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Thanks for expressing my point nicely, EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljer Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 No offense DB, but who gave up the 27 points?? Come on...there were no bright spots in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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