tshile Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Larry said: You have a proposal for another tool to use? yeah but no one likes my ideas instead they're prefer to continue using the tool that has yet to work, to date. keep backing the kick-the-can-down-the-road policy. eventually we'll be at the end of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Just now, tshile said: yeah but no one likes my ideas instead they're prefer to continue using the tool that has yet to work, to date. Do you wonder why no one likes your ideas? And sanctions are, as far as I know, the only tool that has worked, to date. (Maybe "negotiating, using trade as a tool" is a better term) The Korea Chronology, as I understand it, is: 1) Clinton successfully used the lifting of sanctions to get NK to shut down the reactor they'd built, to make plutonium. And to halt construction on the two larger ones they were building. 2) W unilaterally reneged on our side of the deal, and called them bad names. 3) NK restarted their reactor. Completed the two they had halted, started them, built weapons, and tested them. So, want to know which approach has been proven not to work? It's the "saber rattling and name calling" method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Larry said: Do you wonder why no one likes your ideas? And sanctions are, as far as I know, the only tool that has worked, to date. (Maybe "negotiating, using trade as a tool" is a better term) The Korea Chronology, as I understand it, is: 1) Clinton successfully used the lifting of sanctions to get NK to shut down the reactor they'd built, to make plutonium. And to halt construction on the two larger ones they were building. 2) W unilaterally reneged on our side of the deal, and called them bad names. 3) NK restarted their reactor. Completed the two they had halted, started them, built weapons, and tested them. So, want to know which approach has been proven not to work? It's the "saber rattling and name calling" method. I'm not really concerned with why no one likes my ideas. We can see the results of their ideas. They're great so far. Go ahead with your understanding. Let's see how sanctions work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 minute ago, tshile said: I'm not really concerned with why no one likes my ideas. We can see the results of their ideas. Well, some of us can see the results of negotiations and sanctions. Others prefer to make claims that don't match the facts. (While not acknowledging that their own proposals are worse.) Some of us can also see the results of other proposals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JCB Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Here's a very useful (and unnerving) read on the major strategies for dealing with NK. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-worst-problem-on-earth/528717/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Quote Back in Alabama, Moore’s win should give momentum to Bannon’s politics, especially if it encourages more outsider challenges to incumbent Republicans. The day after Moore’s victory, Bannon flew to Colorado to interview candidates in western states to carry the populist mantle in 2018. His effort to steer the GOP toward nationalism, Bannon explains, will involve encouraging candidates to take hard-line positions toward China. “Every day we are going to be making China a huge part of the ’18 and ’20 elections,” Bannon says. Whether or not Bannon can persuade Trump, the days of assuming the GOP is the party of unfettered free trade are probably over. “The current direction of U.S. politics is headed toward populism, isolationism, and bashing China for good reasons or bad,” Scissors says. “If I were Goldman Sachs or another big bank looking to defend my deal pipeline, I would be worried.” Looks like Asian Americans are next year's item on the travel ban list. Getting worried about SE Asia thanks to Myanmar's genocide of the Muslim Rohingya.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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visionary Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I thought we were done talking. Could have sworn we said that about fifteen times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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