Thiebear Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 with the 20% down rule and Foreclosures at all time High for the last 3 years: Owning a house is the exception again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yes,I have seen that as well.Being of one accord and with the same goals usually reduces that. Very much indeed. (which goes back to my favoring local congregations) I came out of that tradition and for reasons that I'll not go into here, let's just say that I am very much at home in the United Methodist Church. ---------- Post added December-21st-2010 at 11:03 AM ---------- with the 20% down rule and Foreclosures at all time High for the last 3 years:Owning a house is the exception again. Well, if you think about it like Judson does then it makes perfect sense. He doesn't want the rabble to determine the direction of the nation, instead he wants the rich to determine its direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 From the OP ...The Methodist church is pro-illegal immigration. They have been in the bag for socialist health care, going as far as sending out emails to their membership “debunking” the myths of Obamacare. Say, where are the liberal complaints on the separation of church and state? I guess their outrage is selective. I don't know which wins out on this comment, his ignorance of the concept of separation of church and state or his stupidity/hypocrisy. Of the former, he's arguing the reverse of the concept as the 1st ammendment prohibits the state from mandating or interfering with the practice of religion, not the other way around. That is, there's no prohibition on churches' participation in policitcal activities. Were that to be the case, the GOP, TP, and the religious right would probably be the biggest losers. As for the latter, where's Judson Phillip's outrage in response to right wing religious political organizing to outlaw abortion, prevent homosexual marriage, etc.? My point is, expecting any group to show outrage at an agenda they agree with is, just, well stupid. But then what else would we expect from someone like this? Whoa!!! That's like Thomas Jefferson/James Madison kind of crazy right there. Who in their right mind would ever want to keep 19YO high-school dropouts and dementia-addled 75YO alcoholics from the polls? America, clearly, couldn't bear that type of intellectual loss from the constituency. So true! I think literacy testing is an excellent way to determine who among us is worthy of the right to vote. Why don't you try one and I'll grade it for you. Remember, one wrong answer and you lose your right to vote. You have ten minutes to finish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I came out of that tradition and for reasons that I'll not go into here, let's just say that I am very much at home in the United Methodist Church. . .Nothing like living it to point out it's shortcomings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 From the OPI don't know which wins out on this comment, his ignorance of the concept of separation of church and state or his stupidity/hypocrisy. Of the former, he's arguing the reverse of the concept as the 1st ammendment prohibits the state from mandating or interfering with the practice of religion, not the other way around. That is, there's no prohibition on churches' participation in policitcal activities. Were that to be the case, the GOP, TP, and the religious right would probably be the biggest losers. Agreed, it was hilarious that the only time he wants the Leftist version of the Separation of Church and state is when a church does not follow his tea-o-con ideology. Just sad in the most hypocritical way. So true! I think literacy testing is an excellent way to determine who among us is worthy of the right to vote. Why don't you try one and I'll grade it for you. Remember, one wrong answer and you lose your right to vote. You have ten minutes to finish... Yikes! I made it through page two and even then I kept thinking that I must have made some mistakes. That's what worries me when people start talking about literacy testing for voting, and while on the surface it sounds like it might be an ok idea, the reality is that these tests would be developed by states and counties which means that there would be no consistency and very little real accountability for tests that were created to single out certain portions of the populace. .Nothing like living it to point out it's shortcomings Experience is a bitter school master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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