ericsawyerrr Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I know our Linebackers have not been performing as well as they should be and that can be partially blamed on Spanos, partially on Haslett, and partially on the 3-4 defense that doesn't fit out players' skill sets. Regardless, this man was an absolute genius in Pittsburgh taking players such as James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley (who we should sign in F/A just as a side note), and Lawrence Timmons into incredible players. He has a great grasp on the 3-4 defense from his time in Pittsburgh and in my honest opinion would be a much better coach going forward. He is young, hungry, and yesterday during the game you could see him flanking Haslett screaming out to players on the field. You can tell he has the passion to take this defense back to the Top 10. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I think Shanahan's going to give Haslett some slack for both football and personal reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 until we get a good D-line and some safety help...our defense will suck no matter who is in charge of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsawyerrr Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 until we get a good D-line and some safety help...our defense will suck no matter who is in charge of it. I agree that the lines must be rebuilt but with someone with much more 3-4 knowledge than Haslett, I feel that Spanos could make this defense better. Haslett has had opportunities as a head coach and defensive coordinator and has shown that he has not been above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Dude...our 3-4 will not show improvement until we get 3-4 DE and a NT. How are our LBs going to excel if we have NO defensive line!!?? We need guys to push the offensive line back instead of getting pushed back into the second level. It's very simple. Without the D-line, we will struggle. Hopefully we fix this through draft and free agency instead of pulling a Vinny and trading the future for an over rated Luck. Haslett will succeed here. Just give him time. I thought us fans were tired of switching up coordinators and coaches. consistency and continuity. Just be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I agree that the lines must be rebuilt but with someone with much more 3-4 knowledge than Haslett, I feel that Spanos could make this defense better. Haslett has had opportunities as a head coach and defensive coordinator and has shown that he has not been above average. I actually think Haslett taught Spanos a lot of his 3-4 knowledge during their time together in Blitzburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsawyerrr Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 Dude...our 3-4 will not show improvement until we get 3-4 DE and a NT. How are our LBs going to excel if we have NO defensive line!!?? We need guys to push the offensive line back instead of getting pushed back into the second level. It's very simple. Without the D-line, we will struggle. Hopefully we fix this through draft and free agency instead of pulling a Vinny and trading the future for an over rated Luck.Haslett will succeed here. Just give him time. I thought us fans were tired of switching up coordinators and coaches. consistency and continuity. Just be patient. You must have missed my last point. I agree that a nose tackle is one of the highest priorities of the offseason. I'm just saying, Spanos wouldn't have a different system or anything, it would just be the same defense ran by a younger, hungrier coach with more 3-4 knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You must have missed my last point. I agree that a nose tackle is one of the highest priorities of the offseason. I'm just saying, Spanos wouldn't have a different system or anything, it would just be the same defense ran by a younger, hungrier coach with more 3-4 knowledge. Oh alright.....but with a franchise with so much inconsistency and change...we need to give him at least one more year. If he doesn't get us to a middle of the pack defensive ranking at least, then maybe we can do an in-house coaching change. Just can't give a man a square peg and expect him to put it through a round hole though. See how he does with the correct pieces around him. If he fails to perform with correct pieces, I would love to see a Pittsburgh mind run our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsawyerrr Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 Oh alright.....but with a franchise with so much inconsistency and change...we need to give him at least one more year. If he doesn't get us to a middle of the pack defensive ranking at least, then maybe we can do an in-house coaching change. Just can't give a man a square peg and expect him to put it through a round hole though. See how he does with the correct pieces around him. If he fails to perform with correct pieces, I would love to see a Pittsburgh mind run our defense. I can see this happening. I'm just not 100% sold on Haslett running any defense. I was very skeptical about the hiring in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Sure. I'd accept this Lou as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebster21 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 if we are going after a DC we should go after Wade Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckBone Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 if we are going after a DC we should go after Wade Phillips. Can we just stop with the Dallas leftovers. Makes me sick to my stomach to just think about it. Have you learned nothing from the likes of Suisham and Norv? Born losers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Can we just stop with the Dallas leftovers. Makes me sick to my stomach to just think about it. Have you learned nothing from the likes of Suisham and Norv? Born losers agreed/ However talented he is as a DC, he's now been infected with the Dallas. Kirk Olivadotti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art McDonough Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 My vote for a new DC would be Mike Singletary when SF fires him. Then return to the 4-3, acquire a real free safety and pray that Haynesworth finds God and decides to rededicate himself to football. Defensive Line: Carriker, Bryant, Haynesworth, Orakpo Linebackers: McIntosh, Fletcher, Riley D Backs: Hall, Landry, Rogers, and the ghost of Sean Taylor I'm damn sure that line-up wouldn't be 32nd in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvan Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Marvin lewis will be looking for a JOB soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 if this team is looking for new dc and which it should Number should be singletary cause as mention he will be let go 2. Marvin lewis 3. Then Wade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 until we get a good D-line and some safety help...our defense will suck no matter who is in charge of it. Yep, a good NT would keep at least one of the inside backers from being blocked. If your inside backers can tackle consistently and don't make a real bad initial step, no one will be able to run inside the tackles on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimeDeCurry Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 It's hard to really judge Haslett after one year, especially with the terrible lack of players here that actually fit a 3-4 defense. I mean, of the starting front seven, how many actually fit our style of defense? Three? Four, maybe? We need a nose tackle, another defensive end, maybe an ILB, definitely an OLB, and a FS. This defense, personnel-wise, is in absolutely no position to compete as a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTribeVA Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I want us to let go of Haslett and go for Marvin Lewis or Mike Singletary (Lewis would be my preference). Those two guys hitting the market is way too good of an opportunity to pass up. However, if Shanny wants to give Haslett another year to get more players that fit the system and he still fails, I'd be very interested to see Lou Spanos get the opportunity to show what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 You really think Marvin would come back here? maybe with no other suitors but he'd prob jump to NCAA or UFL before coming back here...though Shanny vs Spurrier as HC over him he could stomach more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Isn't this his first year being a LB coach on his own? Wasn't he the quality control coach for the Steelers who assisted with the LBs. I don't think he's earned a DC job yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Smith Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 i like the idea of being a 3-4 defense. maybe not with this personnel, and maybe not with haslett forever, but the only way i hope we ever bring in our next DC is if we find a clear upgrade over haslett, who is experienced in running a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Isn't this his first year being a LB coach on his own? Wasn't he the quality control coach for the Steelers who assisted with the LBs. I don't think he's earned a DC job yet. I don't think the word "earned" here is accurate. He's earned a shot as a defensive coordinator after years of hard work and dedication. However, he probably shouldn't be given the role of defensive coordinator quite yet, due to inexperience. But then again, the guy knows the 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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