Thinking Skins Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 OK, whose gonna come now and argue with me that we dont have a good defense? Who's gonna come in here and tell me that we cant stop the run? Who's gonna tell me we dont have a good enough DL? I want to hear these arguments saying that we dont have a defense! We only allowed 160 yards today, fewest since GIbbs was here for freakin sake. If Trotter or Bowen would have gotten picks when they had chances we woulda looked even better. But who wants to come in here and tell me that we are too vulnerable to succeed? Who? WHO???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 156 yards total allowed nuff' said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 yeah but would like to see a better pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by Storm yeah but would like to see a better pass rush. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 the DL was playing to shut down the run, good game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 What Storm said. Earlier, in the pre-season, Art and a few others here stated more of a concern for pass rushing than run stopping and tonight's game seems to be the proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 I liked the D... I also think that those green team 3rd down pass plays helped out a couple of times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 We have zero pass rush. ZERO. I'm happy about the win, and thought a lot of guys played well, but don't fool yourself into thinking the Jets are a good team this year. The Giants and Eagles are 10x better than the Jets right now, and we have a long ways to go if we want to contend for the division title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsThug Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 It's one game -- too soon to tell. 15 more to go. I want to see them stopping the run like this in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Let's not get too happy about our defensive performance. While we did look good defensively, let's not forget that the Jets are a somewhat offensively challenged club. Their interior OL was/is suspect, they don't have a real QB, and their WR's leave something to be desired. It was an encouraging performance, but if we can do the same to the Gints in week 3 THEN I'll be ready to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by bubba9497 the DL was playing to shut down the run, good game plan. Dig it... dare the 40 year old to beat you. You play the game to win ! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canyonero! Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 While I'm happy about the D overall, I'm saving my opinion for some battles against some offenses that aren't so inept, I was very happy about our performance overall. The most telling stat overall to me was yards per play allowed. It was 2.9, while the Jets were allowing 5.9. We were doubling their yards per play, so even though the score shows a close game, I think the stats show that they wouldn't have been in it if we could have played smarter (penalties) and were more careful with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 we cannot look at this game as a measurement of how well our D is this year. If we beat the Jets with Pennington then id say yes, but not Testaverde. next week wont be a measurement either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyward72 Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 No pressure on Vinny. They did stuff the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted September 5, 2003 Author Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by Yusuf06 Let's not get too happy about our defensive performance. While we did look good defensively, let's not forget that the Jets are a somewhat offensively challenged club. Their interior OL was/is suspect, they don't have a real QB, and their WR's leave something to be desired. It was an encouraging performance, but if we can do the same to the Gints in week 3 THEN I'll be ready to believe. you know, thats the argument I was expecting from the media, but not you Yusuf. Surprisingly, they're acting like fans tonight and our fans are acting like critics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted September 5, 2003 Author Share Posted September 5, 2003 Honestly, I think the gameplan was to stop the run and let Vinny beat us. I remember another thread where somebody said that if we give vinny too much time he'll make the mistake himself. While it wasnt always his fault that the play didnt develop, I wasnt too worried about us getting beat by the pass. Just like everybody says that SS needed to learn to run the ball because running sets up the pass, our defense was able to stop the run tonight which didnt allow them to set up the pass. We certainly have a few kinks to work out, but I'm damn well pleased with tonight. I'm not a coach so I'm not gonna get all worried about what might have happened if the Jets did this or that. Point is they didnt and we did what we were supposed to do. If anything, at least we've shown that we're not gonna be abused by teams with horrible offenses. Thats definatley an improvement and lets hope we can start there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Says alot about our linebackers and secondary that we won and held them under 200 yards with no d-line at all. A horrid d-line (could get better with coaching). They need to be more agressive. Alot of standing around and confusion is what I saw......... Still, we have a superb secondary and linebacking corps. THEY WON THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by bubba9497 156 yards total allowed nuff' said Over on GangGreen, they are saying this is the LOWEST total yards the Jets have had in a game in SIX YEARS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasseh Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Spurrier said back in the preseason that he was "cautiously optimistic" about the team this year. I would say that sums up how I feel about our defense. Sure, under 160 sounds great. And I'm pumped up about it. In fact, I think if the defense can even so much as match their performance next week against Atlanta, then we'll start the season 2-0. However, I do have concerns about our pass rush. What's going to happen when we play teams that are much better passing teams? Luckily, we have a few games to prepare for that. In fact, most of the schedule I think is primarily against rushing teams. All that to say, I guess I'll remain cautiously optimistic...at least for a few more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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