NFLAnalyzer Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 The very first possession and even if they didn;t get it the steelers would have been on their own 5yd and had to drive 95 yds. So not getting it wouldn't have been a bad thing and i don;t like FG's because they are LAZY POINTS. FG's don't help you win the game, they set you up to lose the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxiumone Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 The steelers did the onside kick the skins just recovered it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike21 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I didn't argue with this 4th down as much as some other ones I felt we should have gone for. I wanted the fg at this point just to get some points on the board and start the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotInOurHouse Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I think Zorn's thought process was like mine at the time in that points were going to be at a premium. This game had a 12-9 feeling to me and I think it wouldve ended up similar to that had Ben stayed in the game since we obviously gameplanned for him and not Leftwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthor99 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 on the very possession he decides to kick a FG?? I mean if he did the onside kick which was taking a chance, why not continue that same type of agression and go for it on 4th and 1 so you can get a TD instead of a FG? That to me was the weidest part of the entire game and can't believe he was so afraid to set the tone of the game early and not go for the TD. FG's are for losers, TD's are for winners and Zorn was coaching like a loser You answered your own question. It was the very first possession. Get the points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Zorn was coaching smart. The Steelers are hard to run against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGibbsRypenGClark91 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Zorn is NOT AN AGGRESIVE coach. He was aggresive on two plays since has been a Redskins coach. The going for it on 4th vs the Eagles and throwing to ice the game vs the Cardinals. They ran the stats on sirus radio. They have thrown the least deep balls in the NFL. Not even in deep fades that they ran last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLAnalyzer Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 I didn't argue with this 4th down as much as some other ones I felt we should have gone for. I wanted the fg at this point just to get some points on the board and start the right way. That is a loser's mentality, on 4th and 1 on the very first possession you have to go for it, at home on MNF. No fg's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLAnalyzer Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 The steelers did the onside kick the skins just recovered it oh ok, i thought the skins did it because i had my head turned and heard they recovered it. I thought they did a andy reid type kick off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superozman Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 That is a loser's mentality, on 4th and 1 on the very first possession you have to go for it, at home on MNF. No fg's Thats YOUR mentality. If that drive starts at the 20, and ends up where it did, you go for the FG too. Just because you recover an onsides kick doesn’t mean you start going for it on 4-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I was more upset at punting on 4th and 1, which ended up getting blocked, and essentially put us away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLAnalyzer Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Thats YOUR mentality. If that drive starts at the 20, and ends up where it did, you go for the FG too. Just because you recover an onsides kick doesn’t mean you start going for it on 4-1. my point is if the skins didn't get it, the steelers would had to drive 95 yds so what would have been the big deal? Kicking a FG sets you up to lose and he did it twice and that's why the final score was 23-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sap's Skins Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 What's sad is that our first two drives started inside THEIR 40 yard line and we couldn't get a first down, let alone a touchdown. That is what "set the tone" for me...all I could think after that is how are we going to be able to get a 70-80 yard drive together if we can't get TD's with incredible field position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickster Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 my point is if the skins didn't get it, the steelers would had to drive 95 yds so what would have been the big deal? Kicking a FG sets you up to lose and he did it twice and that's why the final score was 23-6 You really have no clue of what you are talking about do you? Steelers tried the onside kick. Redskins did not even get a first down on that series. You get points early TO GET THE LEAD. The Steelers would NOT have to go 95 yards to score because the skins were not on the 5 yrd line on that first FG. It was a 44 yarder. Kicking a FG gives you points in a scoreless game, points are good. You better go back and analyize some more and restrain from posting until you do please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLAnalyzer Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 What's sad is that our first two drives started inside THEIR 40 yard line and we couldn't get a first down' date=' let alone a touchdown. That is what "set the tone" for me...all I could think after that is how are we going to be able to get a 70-80 yard drive together if we can't get TD's with incredible field position. [/quote']That's because Campbell was either throwing a SIDE PASS or a SHORT PASS, you can't move down the field when those type of passes are being thrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLAnalyzer Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 You really have no clue of what you are talking about do you? Steelers tried the onside kick. Redskins did not even get a first down on that series. You get points early TO GET THE LEAD. The Steelers would NOT have to go 95 yards to score because the skins were not on the 5 yrd line on that first FG. It was a 44 yarder. Kicking a FG gives you points in a scoreless game, points are good. You better go back and analyize some more and restrain from posting until you do please... I believe in trying to win the game, not LEAD the game. FG's should be the very last option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickster Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I believe in trying to win the game, not LEAD the game. FG's should be the very last option Yea, 4th down brings "the very last option" Because if you DON'T make it ( and judging by the offense your team put up for the remainder of the game it was highly possible that they would NOT make it.) you do not get to then try for the FG. By your "great" logic. When would be the time that you would EVER go for a FG? I mean you could ALWAYs try for the TD. Maybe they should just outlaw the goalposts and go for 6 everytime.. Oh and you will win 0% of the games you are not LEADING in at some point and time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaGaiden Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 If you want to beat a good Steelers team, you should of went for the 4th and 1 when you are very close to making a Touchdown. Have some guts for once Zorn. If you want to be good teams, u gotta make big plays....and that 4th and 1 couldve/shouldve been a big play. We need to find a way to get into the end zone more. That is what hurting us every damn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooley4President Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I believe in trying to win the game, not LEAD the game. FG's should be the very last option Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in order to win the game, you must first lead the game. That early in the game, you take the points. And they wouldn't have started on their own 5 like you keep saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Because there's a good chance the Steelers would have stopped us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I got no problem with kicking the 3. You gotta take your points against that D. Besides, we've been really bad on short yardage all year. How many times do we fall short on 3rd and 1? Hell we fell short on 3rd and 1 the play before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Zorn was coaching smart. The Steelers are hard to run against. true. take 3 or risk having a low chance at scoring. We couldn't run well when they didn't expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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