Mad Mike Posted April 3, 2003 Share Posted April 3, 2003 Trust Pravda to get to the truth. :laugh: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html Pravda.RU:Top Stories:More in detail 13:47 2003-01-31 Is Hussein Owner of Crashed UFO? ⌠An UFO-related incident that occurred four years ago poses a troubling question whether any kind of cooperation is possible between Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and extraterrestrials, UFOlogist Joseph Trainor declared in his review UFO Roundup (issue 51 of December 17, 2002). ⌠On December 16, 1998, during Operation Desert Fox against Iraq, a video clip aired on CNN showed a UFO hovering over Baghdad; it moved away to avoid a stream of tracer anti-aircraft fire. At that time we all thought it was another UFO sighting, although captured on videotape. But now, ufologists think it was much more than a mere incident. Jack Sarfatti reported that Friday evening, December 6, 2002 ⌠someone called the Art Bell radio show, claimed his connection with the military and informed that a UFO crashed in Iraq several years ago. The USA is currently searching for any pretext to invade Iraq. In fact, the USA is motivated by the greatest fear that Saddam will reverse-engineer the crashed alien spacecraft. It is allegedly said that the craft crashed during the Gulf War (1990-1991), or more recently (probably in December 1998). This became some kind of Iraq's Rosewell. The USA is currently reverse-engineering the Rosewell craft and fears that Saddam's scientists may become even more successful than Americans in this or that sphere. It was said that these researches may give Iraq a considerable advance and even make it a leading super power. UFO Roungup's Arab journalists failed either to confirm or to deny these rumors. Aiasha al-Hatabi replied to Joseph Trainor that ⌠he heard nothing about a UFO crash in Iraq. In the words of Mohammed Daud al-Hayyat, ⌠there are talks about extraterrestrials in Iraq, but nothing is said about any crash. It is rumored at a market in Sulaimaniya, to the south of Zarzi, that aliens are Saddam's guests. Where do they stay then? People mention some underground base. But Saddam has a palace in this valley, an old stronghold Qalaat-e-Julundi. Earlier it belonged to the royal family. After the revolution, the government took possession of the fortress, and now, like every palace in Iraq it is ⌠a summer residence of Saddam Hussein. The fortress is mentioned here for a very simple reason: it is practically impossible to penetrate into it. The citadel stands on a hill surrounded with vertical precipices on three sides; the precipices plunge down to the Little Zab river. It is said that Saddam lets aliens stay there. Mohammed Hajj al-Amdar said on the basis of strange stories coming out of that valley: ⌠Saddam gave the aliens sanctuary, so that they couldn't be captured by Americans. Nobody can reach the citadel Qalaat-e-Julundi at night. They say that the aliens created ⌠watchdogs for Saddam. The aliens took ordinary desert scorpions and used their bio-engineering to grow the scorpions to giant size. Scorpions of a cow-size! They are wonderful watchdogs: they blend in with the desert, swiftly and silently move on their warm-blooded prey for a decisive attack. Luckless intruders hear just some strange sound from behind stones, then a pincer crushes their necks, another pincer crushes their legs; then the victims is slammed to the ground and beaten with a barbed tail six or seven times. Death comes almost immediately. Joseph Trainor came to a conclusion that something strange is actually happening in the valley of the Little Zab river, but it is not clear what exactly. It is not ruled out that Saddam intentionally spreads these rumors so that to scare people away from some important military object located in the old fortress of Qalaat-e-Julundi. Nevertheless, it is not the only information about a UFO crash in that area. Many years ago, on June 20, 1993, an information was published on FIDOnet's MUFONET BBS NETWORK, it was a letter of some Steve from Britain. He openly warned: ⌠The following information was published in Amateur Radio Packet BBS on June 13 by some short-wave transmitter for spreading all over the world. I know nothing about the man who published the information, I also cannot say whether his information is true. The man reported that some aircraft was found after it was brought down by F-16 over Saudi Arabia during raids in Baghdad. The information itself said: ⌠A high-ranking source admitted that US Air Force's F-16 brought down a UFO over Saudi Arabia during the Operation Desert Storm, and five countries are trying to conceal information about this fact. I don't know details, but it was some plane unknown to me. Saudis who were with me at that moment, were scared so much that they asked American, British and French investigators to come to the crash site immediately. Colonel Petrokov said that at that moment he was on a visit to Er Riyadh, where together with a Russian group he managed to examine the crashed aircraft before American troops participating in Desert Storm came to the crash site. He said: ⌠The aircraft was round and made of some material that I never saw myself. About one third of the craft was torn out by blasts of American missiles. Saudis didn't let us touch anything, but we managed to see appliances, mechanisms and other things that bewildered us absolutely. Inscriptions on the control panel and on the scales were in some unknown language. ⌠It was a relatively small craft, of approximately 15 feet in diameter. It had three chairs, probably for crew members, but they were so small as if meant for children. To all appearance, space aliens were just about three feet tall. However, it seems incredible that there were no dead bodies at the crash site; what is more, nothing that might look like an engine was found there as well. Probably American missiles hit the engine immediately and destroyed it. Later, operators of Saudi radar stations told me that no ejection or falling of some subjects out of the craft was registered. Searching helicopters surveyed the desert, but the pilots failed to find any surviving crew member close to the crash site. At the radar station Petrokov learnt that the target identified as a UFO emerged from nowhere when four F-16 headed for Baghdad. One of the American planes broke the line and directed toward the UFO. The alien craft started moving south-west, away from the American plane, and the latter pursued it. When the F-16 was three miles away from the object, the craft fired at it but missed. Then the American plane fired a missile at the UFO. A horrifying sound followed and the spacecraft dropped on the ground. Petrokov says that when American investigators came to the crash site, he and his people were ordered to leave the area for Er Riyadh. The colonel says, it is highly likely that Americans didn't want others see some other things that were in the crash site in addition to the round shape of the craft made of some unknown material and the fact that no aliens survived after the crash. In Petrokov's words, people from his team managed to take pictures of the site, and neither Saudis nor Americans noticed it. But the next day the team was ordered to bring the pictures to Russian authorities. ⌠American military engineers gathered all wreckage and removed them for further study in the USA. This story seems to be absolutely unlikely. As we see, the source of the information is just a Russian colonel, some Petrokov. If no additional information follows in connection with the case, it may be still considered just doubtful anonymous rumors. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratoman Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 some deep $hit man........ :high: :high: :high: :high: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 The unexplained phenomenon know as a rod captured on film by Fox News flying over Baghdad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 Damnit Damnit Damnit... I knew it! Saddam is going to make us pay by abducting more people and slaughtering more cattle... this sucks. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 Here is another photo capturing a rod in flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 Tex... I have seen Rod's on the show Sighting before... and they all look just like that... Regardess of what they are, it is weird... Have you ever heard an explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn X Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 :laugh: Isn't Pravda an old Soviet era newspaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 4, 2003 Share Posted April 4, 2003 What are flying rods? Rods are cylindrical or cigar shaped objects that are not like the typical "cigar" shaped UFOS that have been reported throughout history. -They are from four inches to a hundred,(or more), feet in length. -Some are thin like spears. -Some Rods have what appear to be "appendages" along their torsos resembling Centipedes. -They travel at extremely high velocities barely visible with the naked eye. -They do exhibit some form of intelligence. -They are appearing everywhere. -They don't appear to be mechanical or made of metal. -They appear to be alive! Some believe they are unidentified creatures that swim through our skies. No one has ever found a dead one or brought one back alive. The only way to see them is on videotape played back frame by frame. They are indentified as "flying rods" or "skyfish". Want to catch your own? Here's what you do... 1) Adjust your video camera's shutter setting. Depending on your camera, it might be a dial with little pictures on it. Look for the sports setting. That will ensure you have a high shutter setting so each frame of video will look like a single picture without blur. 2) Point your camera at the sky. Leave something, like a tree as a frame of reference. 3) Adjust your zoom so it matches what you see with the naked eye. Don't use a wide angle, or zoom in for a closeup. 4) Let the camera record for 10 minutes. Then, change angles and record for another 10 minutes. 5) Time to look at your video. Play the video at regular speed. If you see something go by, replay it at slow speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 4, 2003 Author Share Posted April 4, 2003 Yeah, they're called insects flying in front of the camera. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by Mad Mike Yeah, they're called insects flying in front of the camera. :laugh: Mike, First, I'm not necessarily a believer in these "Rods" but I will vouch for this. I have seen several shows a year or more ago that has shown theses rods on video and still photograpy and they look EXACTLY like the photo that Tex posted.. They always look like that... I'm not saying they are extraterrestials, but what ever they are, no one has caught one or found a dead one. It's weird to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Arent those trails from the anti aircraft fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by Kilmer17 Arent those trails from the anti aircraft fire? Are you being sarcastic? (sorry, I'm just not sure) If you are not, the picture of that thing is exactly the same as shows I've seen of them filmed in other parts of the world.. it's like a stick with some kind of wings that ruffle back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 it's like a stick with some kind of wings that ruffle back and forth Like I said... :laugh: Look, I realy hate to blow this spookie story you've got going here but a photo or video at night requires a slow shuttter speed and/or wide aperture. Since very few cameras have lenses capable of the nessisary aperture, shutter speed is the tool of choice. I can't speek about every instance but the photos that were posted here are bugs flying in front of the camera, their reflective bodies leaving a trail and their wings leaving the swirling trail around the trail of their bodies. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 I have no doubt that it's probably some type of insect, but it's one that hasn't been cataloged yet.. the pics are all identical. I bet if you do a google search for "rods", that's what comes up. We did just find that squid, so it is not outside the realm of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 2 sides of the rods debate. This one is from the man who "discovered" rods. And deals with those seen in Baghdad. Rods over Baghdad And this one from an astonomer who says.."Yea whatever". Rods Hoax Watch that second one. Guys is pummled by the rod faithful. Mike, some pretty technical stuff in that second dealing with photography. May need a translation. man the directions these threads take..........anyone Seen Jags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Insects in flight may explain some rod photos. After watching the STS-75 teather film footage of huge rods moving through space it is doubtful that the insect theory is the complete answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by Park City Skins Mike, some pretty technical stuff in that second dealing with photography. May need a translation. man the directions these threads take..........anyone Seen Jags? Shutter speed is the amount of time light is alowed to hit the recording medium (film/sensor) and aperture is the amount of light the lens will allow to hit the film. High speed lenses like thy kind you see pros using at football games cost thousands of dollars and allow so much light in (note the big lens) that the amount of time the shutter needs to be open is greatly reduced. That is how they can freeze the action you see in those great photos so well. (BTW telephoto or zoom increases the need for more light and higher shutter speeds, don't ask me why, I don't know the details but it has to do with physics) At any rate, video cameras are terible at freezing action, thus when a bug flies in front of the lens, a frozen frame will often show a long streak (the bugs body moving past the lense) surrounded by a swirling streak (the bugs wings flaping) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 An example of too slow shutter speed (or not enough light) that resulted in a happy accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 a normal photo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 Using the knowledge I have been talking about allows me to paint with light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 or take cool spring break in Daytona Beach photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted April 5, 2003 Author Share Posted April 5, 2003 BTW I wonder if the guys with the video cameras in that last pic caught any "rods". :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Originally posted by Mad Mike BTW I wonder if the guys with the video cameras in that last pic caught any "rods". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Yes, there was "rod" potential in that last pic:laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn X Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Mad Mike the Photog. You da man, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 5, 2003 Share Posted April 5, 2003 Those guys don't appear to be aiming their camera lenses at the tanned lady's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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