Backpack3r Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I just dont like when he misses the short ones The one in the divisional round against the seahawks last year may have cost us the game, and thats was like 28 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyLeeGhostHunter Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I think we should get Vanderjagt. I don't understand why he's still out of work, apparently.He's the most accurate kicker in history and really has only 2 memorable misses to his credit. And one of those was blocked. Hell....bring back Nicky even. Have a 3 way competition. Vanderjagt? Talking about utter erpic fail when it comes to making it when it matters. Dallas tried that one, go read about how that worked out. Oh, and doesn't he have an ego as big as an older gentlemen's prostate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamyesme1111 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Seriously?? CONSISTENTLY misses short field goals? You are using that word WAY too easily because he made 29-35 field goals last year....So he didn't consistently miss at alll let alone consistently miss short field goals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTotalPackage Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Like I said he only had 2 memorable misses and one of them was because of a breakdown in protection from the line. Right now, suisham has missed what...2 straight from short yardage...one that could've changed the tone of the game. I say vandy deserves a shot at redemption. As for his ego...man. How does T.O. And pacman get 2nd chance after 2nd chance with their collossal egos when the most accurrate kicker in history stays out of work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I think we should get Vanderjagt. I don't understand why he's still out of work, apparently. He's a basket case, rags on his teammates, and can't cope with pressure. He had a 72 FG % the last season he played, which was over a year and a half ago. That guy isn't the player I want, if anything bring back Hall, though he rarely played, and actually had a worse percentage his last year with us. I think you guys are forgetting how bad our kicking has been in the past, not just recent either. Let me try to add some facts to this discussion since it's being driven on pure emotion. The last time we had a kicker kick higher the Shaun's 83% was in 1982, Mark Moseley, and he only did it twice in his career, he was also 4/8 in the playoffs that year. It isn't even close, the only times we've had a higher FG% as a team has been in 05 (81%) and 96 (81%). David Akers, whom we had for 2 kicks, both of which he missed, has a career FG % of 80.7. Comparatively, Shaun has a career (though short) percentage of 82%. Akers was 87% in his 3rd year, Shaun was 88%. Akers was 83% in his 4th year, Shaun was 83% also. I think I'd rather give the young guy a chance to redeem himself, since he's been more accurate than anyone we've had in 26 years. Yes, even if he missed one kick in the post season. You do remember 1 or 2 seasons ago, Adam (HoF) Vinatieri missed a crucial regular season kick against his former team to lose the game for the Colts. I agree he lost the momentum for us in the playoff game, but he didn't lose the game. If anything our QB lost a fumble and 2 INTs. I would say, unless his FG counted for 21 points, we lost it for other reasons more than one FG. Relax, we're in the best shape we've ever been in as far as our Kicker goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 He was fifth in TOTAL FG MADE. Not fifth in ability, fifth in talent, fifth in leg strength, fifth in accuracy, or fifth in effectiveness. He was merely just among the best in total opportunities to kick. Don't manipulate the stats. From GregW But Greg, you just did, stats are stats, they indicate ability. What would you prefer a guy that is 100% at 2 for 2? or a guy that kicks a bunch and well misses a few and makes most of them? Oh yeah, you only care if the 2 for 2 are in the playoffs, how nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldysknzfn1 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I didn't vote in this poll. But I will say this..I don't think we need to cut him...but I do think bringing in a little competition wouldn't be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Landry30- Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I voted to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I voted to cut him. And I voted for Nader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Hes very very very clutch so i like him...he was amazing last yr besides the seattle gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Suisham is statistically our best kicker ever..... so in light of that... i'd keep him. All of you here ****ing right now, shut up until you actually can point to someone better than him to replace him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebody509 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 you've got to be kidding me.....Seriously?....this has to be a joke...He was one of the better kickers in the league last season..... He misses one pre-season game and people want to get rid of him?.....Get the hell outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flycoach Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I think we can find better on a practice squad somewhere.Take option 3 to mean "bring in competition to compete at least" I don't. He's been pretty consistent, IMO. That miss on Sunday wasn't his fault - bad hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayers Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Like said in the other threads about him, he deffinatly needs some competition. It's getting rediculous. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyLeeGhostHunter Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 As for his ego...man. How does T.O. And pacman get 2nd chance after 2nd chance with their collossal egos when the most accurrate kicker in history stays out of work?That kinda' rift raft belongs in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 So, after he split the uprights from 46 yards out, on a kick that could have easily been good from 52+ yards, and his kickoffs were consistently deep, anyone wish to change their opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'KanSkinFan Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 :laugh: :laugh: Gosh, I guess we can't find a player to call for "their head"~ so we pick on Suisham? Come on Shaun~ kick one through the TV :point2sky Honestly, he hasn't been the ONLY kicker that has missed this preseason in NFL :doh: :logo: Hail :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I still say he's the best kicker in Redskin's history before he's done with this team. Again, keep him. Two misses do not a kicker make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-bomb Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Don't forget, he had a new holder in Durant and maybe he wasn't able to get the ball in the right place. And the snap wasn't great either. Rubish he said the hold was good after the game he just missed it! No excuses a so called clutch kicker has to make that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 29 of 35 in FG's last year (including a whole bunch AT the New York football Giants in December)8 out of 9 in 2006 for us in December (including a 52 yarder) 2 game winning FG's last year (Phins, Jets) Deeper kickoffs in the HOF game Name a kicker who is better out there Do i really need to start posting stats again? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 So, after he split the uprights from 46 yards out, on a kick that could have easily been good from 52+ yards, and his kickoffs were consistently deep, anyone wish to change their opinion? Not at all as of right now he is at 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 He was fifth in TOTAL FG MADE. Not fifth in ability, fifth in talent, fifth in leg strength, fifth in accuracy, or fifth in effectiveness. He was merely just among the best in total opportunities to kick. Don't manipulate the stats.From GregW But Greg, you just did, stats are stats, they indicate ability. What would you prefer a guy that is 100% at 2 for 2? or a guy that kicks a bunch and well misses a few and makes most of them? Oh yeah, you only care if the 2 for 2 are in the playoffs, how nice. Still he is 23rd in FG%, the stat that matters most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Not at all as of right now he is at 50%. wow, you won't that cat go will you? Give it a couple more preseason games and see what happens. I hope you chase after chicks this hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 So let me say what you really meant:I agree, aside from the most clutch moment of the season, he has been money in the clutch. Missing kicks in the playoffs is not money in the clutch, period. A kicker who is money in the clutch has to make that kick. Also, regarding the stats that make Suisham fifth. He is among the lowest on that list in FG% and has one of the shortest "Long" numbers. So, we have an inaccurate guy who can't kick from very far out, who just happened to get a lot of opportunities because of our piss-poor offense. He was fifth in TOTAL FG MADE. Not fifth in ability, fifth in talent, fifth in leg strength, fifth in accuracy, or fifth in effectiveness. He was merely just among the best in total opportunities to kick. Don't manipulate the stats. :notworthy :applause: :notworthy :applause: :notworthy :applause: :notworthy :applause: :notworthy :applause: :notworthy FINALLY someone else gets it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 wow, you won't that cat go will you?Give it a couple more preseason games and see what happens. I hope you chase after chicks this hard. Not anymore, I got a great one but thanks! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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