GIBBS LIVES Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 We should have drafted the guy from the first place. He's the type of WR we've been needing and he's a local guy. He's a free agent after the season is over. We have to get rid of Lloyd and adding Davis would upgrade our WR corps without breaking the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 technically it would break the bank, unfortunately our cap situation isnt the best for FA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 technically it would break the bank, unfortunately our cap situation isnt the best for FA... We are getting Brunell's money and lloyd's money off the books. We can afford Davis. He won't break the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 We are getting Brunell's money and lloyd's money off the books. We can afford Davis. He won't break the bank. No, we aren't. When you cut someone, the remainder of their signing bonus gets accelerated into the year you cut them, therefore you still have their numbers in the books for that year. We'll have dead cap from both of them next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 Burnnell is making the minimum allready. And even though we will take a hit with Lloyd in dead cap money, there will still be enough to sign Davis. You guys are acting like it's going to take 18 mil to sing Davis. It's not that serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Andre Davis? Interesting. Depends on how you look at it I guess. If I'm not mistaken, he was drafted in 2002 in the second round and the Redskins drafted Ladell Betts at the time. Seems as though it's worked out fairly even in that Betts is a proven, good back-up RB and Davis is turning out to be a career journeyman. Now he could come in and replace Lloyd,(which may or may not be saying a whole lot), but I don't think he's one to break the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan31 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 how 'bout we do a better job in the draft, and stop signing high priced free agents that don't work................................. Then we won't need threads like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted December 15, 2007 Author Share Posted December 15, 2007 how 'bout we do a better job in the draft, and stop signing high priced free agents that don't work................................. Then we won't need threads like this one. Davis isn't a high priced free agent. And since you made that comment, shows you don't know anything about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nace14 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 to answer your question, the reason is because it is december. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Davis isn't a high priced free agent. And since you made that comment, shows you don't know anything about him. well, considering we are 20 mil over the cap next year, yeah it will be hard to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Andre Davis? Interesting. Depends on how you look at it I guess. If I'm not mistaken, he was drafted in 2002 in the second round and the Redskins drafted Ladell Betts at the time. Seems as though it's worked out fairly even in that Betts is a proven, good back-up RB and Davis is turning out to be a career journeyman. Now he could come in and replace Lloyd,(which may or may not be saying a whole lot), but I don't think he's one to break the bank. no, i know he wont break the bank, but my question is, do we have any bank to break? frankly, i wouldnt mind Lloyd's replacement coming out of the draft but Davis is a relatively solid player. Kinda surprised he's a journeyman but I could see Houston holding on to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 no, i know he wont break the bank, but my question is, do we have any bank to break? We ask that question every year and it depends on who you listen to and/or believe. One thing we have learned is to wait until after the season is over before guessing whether or not the Redskins have cap room. Actually, more like how much cap room they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 We ask that question every year and it depends on who you listen to and/or believe. One thing we have learned is to wait until after the season is over before guessing whether or not the Redskins have cap room. Actually, more like how much cap room they have. I suppose you're right. It'll be interesting, no less. Frankly, I hope we get Davis or keep McCardell. I've heard Davis is a really good presence in the locker room which is what we need if we draft a WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchild Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I dont think the Redskins do a good job at scouting in their own back yard. They really could hit on some good players from Virginia Tech, Virginia, or even Hampton University but seem to pass on them. Of course we really havent had draft picks the last 4 years but when we do we usually draft players from the "U". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANDWARF Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 technically it would break the bank, unfortunately our cap situation isnt the best for FA... Here this every year. Skins in "Cap Hell". Well the end of the season starts the Danny and Vinny Show begins. Then one minute we're in "Cap Hell" and the next we're signing a big name F.A.. Experts are left with how did they do that phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I think Drafting WRs is really difficult , just like QBs, the level of competition in college is not the same as it is in the NFL. Most college CBs can't cover that why you see such High scoring games most of the time. It is better to get a good WR through free agency. Yes, lloyd was a poor pick but at least you have tape on the guy and know what you're getting. Ocho Cinco is a good pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan31 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Davis isn't a high priced free agent. And since you made that comment, shows you don't know anything about him. OK, let me rephrase that since you only read in black and white. How about we do a better job in the draft and stop OVERPAYING for every free agent we sign. Just look at our cap situation and our past performance on the field and figure out that it doesn't match up. It has nothing to do with knowing a player or not. I guess he must be a family member of yours, since I don't know anything about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan48 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 here we go again..lets get more FA. I wish the mods would stop all this FA bull ****. Keep our draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 We are getting Brunell's money and lloyd's money off the books. We can afford Davis. He won't break the bank. lol.... I love it when people act like they know what they're talking about. brunell saves us 3 million still 17 million left to go and cutting lloyd actually hurts our salary cap,we'll have to hope lloyd restructures his deal and we can cut him.but we're at the disadvantage. he doesnt play anyways and is making silly stupid money.he'll probably re-structure so he can leave,but hes only gonna save 2-3 million and that still leaves alot to cut though.and worst case he doesnt restructure and we can't move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan31 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I think Drafting WRs is really difficult ' date=' just like QBs, the level of competition in college is not the same as it is in the NFL. Most college CBs can't cover that why you see such High scoring games most of the time. It is better to get a good WR through free agency. Yes, lloyd was a poor pick but at least you have tape on the guy and know what you're getting. Ocho Cinco is a good pick.[/quote']I think your right with drafting WR's. Recievers and Quartebacks are prob the hardest positions to pick. I wouldn't mind signing an established wr, but I'm tired of the cap hell we seem to be in every year. It would be one thing if it payed off. But it's pretty much proven that in this sport you can't buy a championship. Lloyd was a bad pickup because of what we paid him. I still feel he has a ton of talent, but he just hasn't worked out here. He has never been involved in the gameplan for reasons that are beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 There is no way he's leaving Houston. Everything they've done to solidify that line would go to waste if their franchise's best offensive player left. They'd go back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsince72 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I don't think we will go after any WR's in the draft. I think we will keep everyone that we have, including Lloyd. As for Andre Davis. I don't think he will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck812 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I don't think we will go after any WR's in the draft. I think we will keep everyone that we have, including Lloyd. As for Andre Davis. I don't think he will be available. Ouch... we would suck again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Lloyd being cut will cost us at the very least 7 million against the cap. That's unless he gives signing bonus money back, basically paying the team to release him like Lavar did. Davis is an ok player but nothing special. Probably the type of WR we'd have to sign because of the lack of cap space next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 ]']There is no way he's leaving Houston. Everything they've done to solidify that line would go to waste if their franchise's best offensive player left. They'd go back to square one. Are you seriously saying that Andre Davis is better than Andre Johnson, or are you confusing the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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