Playoff picture as of 11/14.....

[djspinoy]

2007 National Football Conference

NFC EAST W L T PCT PF PA STRK DIV CONF

Dallas 8 1 0 .889 296 195 Won 3 3-0 6-0

NY Giants 6 3 0 .667 220 190 Lost 1 2-2 4-3

Washington 5 4 0 .556 177 193 Lost 1 1-2 3-3

Philadelphia 4 5 0 .444 189 180 Won 1 1-3 3-5

NFC NORTH W L T PCT PF PA STRK DIV CONF

Green Bay 8 1 0 .889 228 142 Won 4 2-1 5-1

Detroit 6 3 0 .667 221 216 Lost 1 3-0 4-3

Chicago 4 5 0 .444 161 187 Won 1 1-3 2-4

Minnesota 3 6 0 .333 166 188 Lost 1 1-3 2-5

NFC SOUTH W L T PCT PF PA STRK DIV CONF

Tampa Bay 5 4 0 .556 164 144 Won 1 2-0 4-2

Carolina 4 5 0 .444 150 181 Lost 3 2-2 4-2

New Orlean 4 5 0 .444 202 223 Lost 1 1-2 3-3

Atlanta 3 6 0 .333 135 182 Won 2 1-2 2-4

NFC WEST W L T PCT PF PA STRK DIV CONF

Seattle 5 4 0 .556 191 141 Won 1 3-1 4-2

Arizona 4 5 0 .444 188 195 Won 1 2-1 3-4

San Fran 2 7 0 .222 104 210 Lost 7 2-2 2-5

St. Louis 1 8 0 .111 136 248 Won 1 0-3 1-6

DETROIT LIONS REMAINING SCHED:

11 Sun, Nov 18 NY Giants 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Ford Field

12 Thu, Nov 22 Green Bay 12:30 PM FOX Tickets Ford Field

13 Sun, Dec 2 @ Minnesota 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Metrodome

14 Sun, Dec 9 Dallas 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Ford Field

15 Sun, Dec 16 @ San Diego 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Qualcomm Stadium

16 Sun, Dec 23 Kansas City 1:00 PM CBS Tickets Ford Field

17 Sun, Dec 30 @ Green Bay 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Lambeau Field

NEW YORK GIANTS REMAINING SCHEDULE

11 Sun, Nov 18 @ Detroit 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Ford Field

12 Sun, Nov 25 Minnesota 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Giants Stadium

13 Sun, Dec 2 @ Chicago 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Soldier Field

14 Sun, Dec 9 @ Philadelphia 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Lincoln Financial Field

15 Sun, Dec 16 Washington 8:15 PM NBC Tickets Giants Stadium

16 Sun, Dec 23 @ Buffalo 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Ralph Wilson Stadium

17 Sat, Dec 29 New England 8:15 PM NFL Tickets Giants Stadium

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES REMAINING SCHEDULE:

11 Sun, Nov 18 Miami 1:00 PM CBS Tickets Lincoln Financial Field

12 Sun, Nov 25 @ New England 8:15 PM NBC Tickets Gillette Stadium

13 Sun, Dec 2 Seattle 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Lincoln Financial Field

14 Sun, Dec 9 NY Giants 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Lincoln Financial Field

15 Sun, Dec 16 @ Dallas 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Texas Stadium

16 Sun, Dec 23 @ New Orleans 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Superdome

17 Sun, Dec 30 Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS Tickets Lincoln Financial Field

NEW ORLEANS SAINTS REMAINING SCHEDULE:

11 Sun, Nov 18 @ Houston 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Reliant Stadium

12 Sun, Nov 25 @ Carolina 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Bank of America Stadium

13 Sun, Dec 2 Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Superdome

14 Mon, Dec 10 @ Atlanta 8:30 PM ESPN Tickets Georgia Dome

15 Sun, Dec 16 Arizona 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Superdome

16 Sun, Dec 23 Philadelphia 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Superdome

17 Sun, Dec 30 @ Chicago 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Soldier Field

TAMPA BAY BUCS REMAINING SCHEDULE:

11 Sun, Nov 18 @ Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Georgia Dome

12 Sun, Nov 25 Washington 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Raymond James Stadium

13 Sun, Dec 2 @ New Orleans 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Superdome

14 Sun, Dec 9 @ Houston 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Reliant Stadium

15 Sun, Dec 16 Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Raymond James Stadium

16 Sun, Dec 23 @ San Francisco 8:15 PM NBC Tickets Monster Park

17 Sun, Dec 30 Carolina 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Raymond James Stadium

ARIZONA CARDINALS REMAINING SCHEDULE:

11 Sun, Nov 18 @ Cincinnati 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Paul Brown Stadium

12 Sun, Nov 25 San Francisco 4:05 PM FOX Tickets University of Phoenix

13 Sun, Dec 2 Cleveland 4:05 PM CBS Tickets University of Phoenix Stadium

14 Sun, Dec 9 @ Seattle 4:05 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field

15 Sun, Dec 16 @ New Orleans 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Superdome

16 Sun, Dec 23 Atlanta 4:05 PM FOX Tickets University of Phoenix Stadium

17 Sun, Dec 30 St. Louis 4:15 PM FOX Tickets University of Phoenix Stadium

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS REMAINING SCHEDULE

11 Sun, Nov 18 Chicago 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field

12 Sun, Nov 25 @ St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Edward Jones Dome

13 Sun, Dec 2 @ Philadelphia 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Lincoln Financial Field

14 Sun, Dec 9 Arizona 4:05 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field

15 Sun, Dec 16 @ Carolina 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Bank of America Stadium

16 Sun, Dec 23 Baltimore 4:15 PM CBS Tickets Qwest Field

17 Sun, Dec 30 @ Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Georgia Dome

CHICAGO BEARS REMAINING SCHEDULE:

11 Sun, Nov 18 @ Seattle 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Qwest Field

12 Sun, Nov 25 Denver 4:15 PM CBS Tickets Soldier Field

13 Sun, Dec 2 NY Giants 4:15 PM FOX Tickets Soldier Field

14 Thu, Dec 6 @ Washington 8:15 PM NFL Tickets FedEx Field

15 Mon, Dec 17 @ Minnesota 8:30 PM ESPN Tickets Metrodome

16 Sun, Dec 23 Green Bay 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Soldier Field

17 Sun, Dec 30 New Orleans 1:00 PM FOX Tickets Soldier Field

[djspinoy]

HAHAHAHA...I didnt mean to post this yet, I meant to hit tab and accidentally pushed the enter button...Anyways guys i was basically gonna point out if the skins can get to 9-7 they have a great shot at the playoffs..Looking at Detroits schedule i cant see them gettin to 10-6(we hold the tiebreaker so 9-7 is no good for them)..the Giants have a very tough schedule but I think they are a wildcard team..what other team looking at their schedule do u see can be 10-6..The Saints are coming on strong(despite last week) and they have a weak schedule as does Tampa Bay..I think the Tampa game next week might be a bigger win for s than if we beat Dallas..well i posted this prematurely but feel free to run with it if you'd like :dallasuck

[cnhnyy]

I am not worried about Lions. their schedule is brutal and they are lucky to end up 8-8.

Bears/eagles/bucs/saints are all fighting for the last playoff spot (Gints will have the 5th spot). We will have to beat Bears and Bucs to have tiebreakers.

We will have to go 10-6 to have a shot due to our horrible divisional record (1-2 now, could be 1-5 or 2-4 at the end). We will have two almost sure losses: @Dallass @Gintts, which means the margin of error is zero. We have to win the rest five games (at Bucs, at Vikes, Bears, Bills, C'girls).

[BAFGA]

The Lions will win this week. They play a lot better at home than away. That'll put them at 7-3 and the Giants at 6-4. If we take care of business we can be 6-4 as well.

[djspinoy]

Basically I think it will end like this:

NFC East winner: Dallas

NFC North winner: Green Bay

NFC West winner: Seattle

NFC South Winner: Tampa/ New Orleans

#5 wildcard: New York Giants

Now the last spot in my opinion comes between either Tampa, New Orleans, Chicago and Washington..Detroits schedule will keep them from getting in and we have the tiebreak over them..Look at the Eagles schedule, I can see at least 3 losses which puts them at best 8-8..The saints and Bucs have real easy schedules which is what scares me the most..i can see both of them getting in due to real easy scedules..We eliminate the Bears as long as we beat them in Fedex..If we are 9-7 with wins over tampa and chicago we have a real good chance to get in..10-6 and a win over Tampa and we are definitely in..

[Larry Brown #43]

We will have to go 10-6 to have a shot due to our horrible divisional record

???

Our division record is irrelevant, unless you think we can still win the division. Conference record is what matters in terms of a wildcard spot.

[FedExFielder]

It sucks that we have to aim for the 6 seed already at this point. It's pretty much just a formality being the 6 seed in the NFC cuz you aren't gonna win the Super Bowl

[SkinsFanAnt]

who cares...we might make the playoffs but Gibbs will blow the game in the 4th quareter...IF we don't get destroyed...and unfortunately it will not be the Dolphins, the Jets, or the Cards so there will be no lucky wins out of that.

[Guest ComebackKing]

who cares...we might make the playoffs but Gibbs will blow the game in the 4th quareter...IF we don't get destroyed...and unfortunately it will not be the Dolphins, the Jets, or the Cards so there will be no lucky wins out of that.

That's what I was gonna say. We need to get some momentum going before we can even think about going 9-7 because the team I saw on Sunday was a 7-9 team at best.

[Heidenreich]

If you guys are really thinking about this, you might want to root for the Giants this week.

If all three teams are tied (NY, Was, & Det), our head to head vicotry over detroit could be meaningless.

Division ties are broken first.

Hypotetically. Detroit beats the Giants this week. Then all three teams finish 10-6 (or 9-7).

First, the Giants & Redskins have to settle the division tiebreaker, which the Redskins lose. The Giants then move on to Detroit & lose that tiebreaker due to their head to head loss. The Giants then go with us for wild card #6, a tiebreaker which we lose.

After the Tampa Game next week, I'll start to have a little fun with the playoff scenarios. I know WAY more than I should, and I enjoy the scenarios a little more than I should.....

[Mark The Homer]

For what it's worth, Gibbs teams historically play their best in the cold weather -- that includes Gibbs II.

[CurseReversed]

HAHAHAHA...I didnt mean to post this yet, I meant to hit tab and accidentally pushed the enter button...Anyways guys i was basically gonna point out if the skins can get to 9-7 they have a great shot at the playoffs..Looking at Detroits schedule i cant see them gettin to 10-6(we hold the tiebreaker so 9-7 is no good for them)..the Giants have a very tough schedule but I think they are a wildcard team..what other team looking at their schedule do u see can be 10-6..The Saints are coming on strong(despite last week) and they have a weak schedule as does Tampa Bay..I think the Tampa game next week might be a bigger win for s than if we beat Dallas..well i posted this prematurely but feel free to run with it if you'd like :dallasuck

Yea I posted something along these lines earlier. We still have a very good shot at making the playoffs with a 9-7 record. One of the main components of this would be if we do loose some games to loose them to an afc opponent. None of the teams we are in a race against right now have the conference record lead over us except carolina i believe. So if we can hold our tiebreaker we can take it with 9-7.

WHat is the next tiebreaker after conference record again?

[Heidenreich]

WHat is the next tiebreaker after conference record again?

DIVISION TIES (if tied with the Giants)

Head to head

Division record

Common Games (Including AFC games)

Conf Record

WILD CARD TIES

Head To Head

Conf Record

Common games (must be min of 4)

Strentgh of Victory- (Now this is where it gets fun)

[helptheSKINS]

The Lions had -18 rushing yards against AZ. That should tell you how legit they are. They had one of the easiest first half skeds and one of the toughest 2nd hald skeds. They will finish 2-5 and lose the WC birth tiebreaker to the Skins

[#1njskinsfan]

wake me up wild card weekend when we make it

[Redskins4ever]

With the Giants and Dallas ahead of us in the division, it doesn't appear as though we can win the NFC East now unless something unusual happens. At best we can be a 5th seed if we push it. At worse, a 6th seed like two years ago.

[Larry Brown #43]

DIVISION TIES (if tied with the Giants)

Head to head

Division record

Common Games (Including AFC games)

Conf Record

WILD CARD TIES

Head To Head

Conf Record

Common games (must be min of 4)

Strentgh of Victory- (Now this is where it gets fun)

Hold on, Heidenreich. "Division ties" means tied for the division lead, not tied for a wildcard spot with a divisional rival.

Let's say we are tied for a wildcard spot with NYG and DET, head-to-head goes out the window, because it's a 3-way tie. Head-to-head only matters if it's a 2-way tie. Conference record becomes the first tiebreaker in that case.

Division record is completely irrelevent in terms of wildcard tiebreakers.

[emor09]

its gonna come down to us and New Orleans for the wildcard

Tampa has a soft schedule left so they will win the South

Giants will get 5 seed

We are fighting with the Saints

[S.T.real,lights,out]

The Lions will win this week. They play a lot better at home than away. That'll put them at 7-3 and the Giants at 6-4. If we take care of business we can be 6-4 as well.

Dude the Giants are going to kill the Lions.

[Larry Brown #43]

its gonna come down to us and New Orleans for the wildcard

Tampa has a soft schedule left so they will win the South

Giants will get 5 seed

We are fighting with the Saints

I think the Saints' schedule is softer than Tampa's, and I think the Saints end up winning that division. I think we'll battle both Tampa and Detroit for the final spot. The game at Tampa on 11/25 is fairly gigantic.

[UofMSkinsFan]

Football Outsiders produces objective playoff probabilities for every team based on simulations of all future games using their DVOA stats (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/glossary.php#dvoa). Here are their current playoff odds for NFC teams (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/playoffodds.php):

1. Dallas (99.9%)

2. Green Bay (99.8%)

3. Seattle (83.4%)

4. New York (70.1%)

5. Arizona (35%)

6. Detroit (34.1%)

7. Washington (28.2%)

8. New Orleans (20.7%)

Obviously, no approach is perfect, but this one seems as good as any, and better than most. It suggests that we should be most concerned about Arizona and Detroit slipping in ahead of us, despite our head-to-head wins.

[djspinoy]

Football Outsiders produces objective playoff probabilities for every team based on simulations of all future games using their DVOA stats (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/glossary.php#dvoa). Here are their current playoff odds for NFC teams (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/playoffodds.php):

1. Dallas (99.9%)

2. Green Bay (99.8%)

3. Seattle (83.4%)

4. New York (70.1%)

5. Arizona (35%)

6. Detroit (34.1%)

7. Washington (28.2%)

8. New Orleans (20.7%)

Obviously, no approach is perfect, but this one seems as good as any, and better than most. It suggests that we should be most concerned about Arizona and Detroit slipping in ahead of us, despite our head-to-head wins.

Thats pretty interesting..Arizona is a game back of us now and since we have the tiebreak they are essentially 2 games back..looking at their schedule i can see them losing the rest of their road games (cincy,seattle and new orleans) the best i can see them finishing is 9-7 (5-2) the rest of the way and that still wouldnt get them in if the skins finish 9-7..Now Detroit is a game ahead but we have the tiebreak..their sched is sooo brutal(nyg,gb,@min,dal,@sd,kc,@gb) i can see them losing at least 4 there and that would put them at 9-7 again losing the tiebreaker to the skins if we can get to 9-7..To me I htink it comes down to NO/Tampa/washington, and 1 of those teams is gonna win hte NFC South.

[TotalRecall]

Please STOP! You're just embarrassing yourself or setting yourself up for disappointment. Try some reality and I'm not talking about "reality tv".

[Sharkdart]

That's what I was gonna say. We need to get some momentum going before we can even think about going 9-7 because the team I saw on Sunday was a 7-9 team at best.

You must have been watching a totally different game than me. We could have and should have beaten the eagles. We just need to put teams away when we get a chance, Period.

[Sharkdart]

Please STOP! You're justing embarrassing yourself or setting yourself up for disappointment. Try some reality and I'm not talking about "reality tv".

Ha ha ha ha ha, worst joke i've ever seen on here. Talk about embarrassing oneself. What's wrong with pulling for you team,you should try it. And four more wins is very possible.