JMS Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Army tests James Bond style tank that is 'invisible' New technology that can make tanks invisible has been unveiled by the Ministry of Defence. In secret trials last week, the Army said it had made a vehicle completely disappear and predicted that an invisible tank would be ready for service by 2012. The new technology uses cameras and projectors to beam images of the surrounding landscape onto a tank. The result is that anyone looking in the direction of the vehicle only sees what is beyond it and not the tank itself. A soldier, who was at the trials, said: "This technology is incredible. If I hadn't been present I wouldn't have believed it. I looked across the fields and just saw grass and trees - but in reality I was staring down the barrel of a tank gun." How the technology works in a combat situation is very sensitive, but the MoD is believed to be testing a military jacket that works on the same principles. It is the type of innovation normally associated with James Bond, and the brains behind the latest technology is the MoD's very own "Q" - Professor Sir John Pendry, of Imperial College London. He said the only drawback was the reliability of the cameras and projectors. But he added: "The next stage is to make the tank invisible without them - which is intricate and complicated, but possible." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=490669&in_page_id=1811 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 Army tests James Bond style tank that is 'invisible' New technology that can make tanks invisible has been unveiled by the Ministry of Defence. In secret trials last week, the Army said it had made a vehicle completely disappear and predicted that an invisible tank would be ready for service by 2012. The new technology uses cameras and projectors to beam images of the surrounding landscape onto a tank. The result is that anyone looking in the direction of the vehicle only sees what is beyond it and not the tank itself. A soldier, who was at the trials, said: "This technology is incredible. If I hadn't been present I wouldn't have believed it. I looked across the fields and just saw grass and trees - but in reality I was staring down the barrel of a tank gun." How the technology works in a combat situation is very sensitive, but the MoD is believed to be testing a military jacket that works on the same principles. It is the type of innovation normally associated with James Bond, and the brains behind the latest technology is the MoD's very own "Q" - Professor Sir John Pendry, of Imperial College London. He said the only drawback was the reliability of the cameras and projectors. But he added: "The next stage is to make the tank invisible without them - which is intricate and complicated, but possible." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=490669&in_page_id=1811 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I feel safer already. Soon we'll all have an invisible agent in our bedrooms making sure we stay in line. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I feel safer already. Soon we'll all have an invisible agent in our bedrooms making sure we stay in line. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 That sounds really cool -- I shouldn't be surprised. New things every day. I wonder if they've come up with something to deal with the thermal signature as well? Still, that'd significantly reduce a tank's sillouette -- especially in the defense (where you can mitigate the thermal signature a bit better with hull and turrent down positions). Good find, JMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 That sounds really cool -- I shouldn't be surprised. New things every day. I wonder if they've come up with something to deal with the thermal signature as well? Still, that'd significantly reduce a tank's sillouette -- especially in the defense (where you can mitigate the thermal signature a bit better with hull and turrent down positions). Good find, JMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 So no heat signature either ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 So no heat signature either ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 So no heat signature either ? Exactly. Nor the rumble of a couple of diesel engines large enough to move a vehicle that size. Cool technology, but certainly not infalable for lots of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 So no heat signature either ? Exactly. Nor the rumble of a couple of diesel engines large enough to move a vehicle that size. Cool technology, but certainly not infalable for lots of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Exactly. Nor the rumble of a couple of diesel engines large enough to move a vehicle that size.Cool technology, but certainly not infalable for lots of reasons. So no heat signature either ? **** the tank - did you not read that they are working on a jacket? You can probably hide the heat signature of a person if you can make him invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Exactly. Nor the rumble of a couple of diesel engines large enough to move a vehicle that size.Cool technology, but certainly not infalable for lots of reasons. So no heat signature either ? **** the tank - did you not read that they are working on a jacket? You can probably hide the heat signature of a person if you can make him invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 That sounds really cool -- I shouldn't be surprised. New things every day. I wonder if they've come up with something to deal with the thermal signature as well? Still, that'd significantly reduce a tank's sillouette -- especially in the defense (where you can mitigate the thermal signature a bit better with hull and turrent down positions). Good find, JMS. Says in the article the Brits are testing uniforms for foot soldiers too. How long will it be until we figure out a way to put those projectors on a Raptor.... invisible to radar and you can't see it eather. I remember a few years back reading the Japanese had a cloth made out of a material which could project images and make the wearer invisible. Solid state. Invisibility cloak.... It gets alot scarier... Check this out... A professor at the University of Tokyo has developed an optical camouflage system that makes a special reflective material seemingly disappear, including the wearer! The picture on the coat is made by a viewfinder which puts together the moving images behind the wearer. It's hoped the technology will be useful for surgeons to be able to see through their hands and tools and also for pilots so the ****pit floor will be transparent for landings. http://www.thegreenhead.com/2004/05/japanese-scientist-invents-invisibility-cloak.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 That sounds really cool -- I shouldn't be surprised. New things every day. I wonder if they've come up with something to deal with the thermal signature as well? Still, that'd significantly reduce a tank's sillouette -- especially in the defense (where you can mitigate the thermal signature a bit better with hull and turrent down positions). Good find, JMS. Says in the article the Brits are testing uniforms for foot soldiers too. How long will it be until we figure out a way to put those projectors on a Raptor.... invisible to radar and you can't see it eather. I remember a few years back reading the Japanese had a cloth made out of a material which could project images and make the wearer invisible. Solid state. Invisibility cloak.... It gets alot scarier... Check this out... A professor at the University of Tokyo has developed an optical camouflage system that makes a special reflective material seemingly disappear, including the wearer! The picture on the coat is made by a viewfinder which puts together the moving images behind the wearer. It's hoped the technology will be useful for surgeons to be able to see through their hands and tools and also for pilots so the ****pit floor will be transparent for landings. http://www.thegreenhead.com/2004/05/japanese-scientist-invents-invisibility-cloak.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 And of course, every little bit helps I'd be really interested to see where this technology is (if it is not presently gimicky), in another decade or so. If they can start doing this without cameras and projectors -- wow. This could become really interesting with the FCS and FCS-like network-centric light vehicles our Army is currently designing. They've been talking for years about -- if we could just reduce the overall signature -- we don't need 70 tons of armor to keep the crew safe, yadda yadda. The way we collaborated with the Brits on Chobham, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar technology in the FCS vehicles (if that is still on track). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 And of course, every little bit helps I'd be really interested to see where this technology is (if it is not presently gimicky), in another decade or so. If they can start doing this without cameras and projectors -- wow. This could become really interesting with the FCS and FCS-like network-centric light vehicles our Army is currently designing. They've been talking for years about -- if we could just reduce the overall signature -- we don't need 70 tons of armor to keep the crew safe, yadda yadda. The way we collaborated with the Brits on Chobham, I wouldn't be surprised to see similar technology in the FCS vehicles (if that is still on track). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 **** the tank - did you not read that they are working on a jacket? You can probably hide the heat signature of a person if you can make him invisible. I saw that in Predator. All he needed was some mud. :laugh: Not to mention WE will end up paying another 50 Billion to get this even started, and there are still starving children in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 **** the tank - did you not read that they are working on a jacket? You can probably hide the heat signature of a person if you can make him invisible. I saw that in Predator. All he needed was some mud. :laugh: Not to mention WE will end up paying another 50 Billion to get this even started, and there are still starving children in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Says in the article the Brits are testing uniforms for foot soldiers too. How long will it be until we figure out a way to put those projectors on a Raptor.... invisible to radar and you can't see it eather.I remember a few years back reading the Japanese had a cloth made out of a material which could project images and make the wearer invisible. Solid state. I remember reading an article some years ago that the U.S. government is working on the same sort of technology for some vehicles. My recollection is that it used an intricate set of mirrors. I don't think there were cameras or projectors involved in our case. Nevertheless, it sounds as though the Brits are nearing being able to actually implement this. Cool indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Says in the article the Brits are testing uniforms for foot soldiers too. How long will it be until we figure out a way to put those projectors on a Raptor.... invisible to radar and you can't see it eather.I remember a few years back reading the Japanese had a cloth made out of a material which could project images and make the wearer invisible. Solid state. I remember reading an article some years ago that the U.S. government is working on the same sort of technology for some vehicles. My recollection is that it used an intricate set of mirrors. I don't think there were cameras or projectors involved in our case. Nevertheless, it sounds as though the Brits are nearing being able to actually implement this. Cool indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 I remember reading an article some years ago that the U.S. government is working on the same sort of technology for some vehicles. My recollection is that it used an intricate set of mirrors. I don't think there were cameras or projectors involved in our case.Nevertheless, it sounds as though the Brits are nearing being able to actually implement this. Cool indeed. Did you check out that YouTube video of the japaneese technology... comercially availible.. solid state... If you can't see my link... google.. on japanese invisibility cloak... go to the youtube link.. look at the guys hands. Look at the guys tie. the images aren't projected onto the material but are reflected from the material in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 I remember reading an article some years ago that the U.S. government is working on the same sort of technology for some vehicles. My recollection is that it used an intricate set of mirrors. I don't think there were cameras or projectors involved in our case.Nevertheless, it sounds as though the Brits are nearing being able to actually implement this. Cool indeed. Did you check out that YouTube video of the japaneese technology... comercially availible.. solid state... If you can't see my link... google.. on japanese invisibility cloak... go to the youtube link.. look at the guys hands. Look at the guys tie. the images aren't projected onto the material but are reflected from the material in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 BTW -- If anyone is interested in this kind of stuff, here is a link to the Army's Future Combat System (FCS). Pretty cool stuff. http://www.army.mil/fcs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 BTW -- If anyone is interested in this kind of stuff, here is a link to the Army's Future Combat System (FCS). Pretty cool stuff. http://www.army.mil/fcs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Meh, big deal. Old news. The Skins offense has been employing this technology all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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