Monk and the Hall Thread,(Including Coach Mike comments and Video). Merged & M.E.T.

[Rocky21]

Good arguments from Coach Mike.

**** Chris Carter. He sucked ass in the playoffs. What a loser.

[wskin44]

Awesome write up! I've tried to find out how many times Art's got a first down on third down compared to other HOF receivers, but haven't found it. Although he played on a running team that preferred to run in the red zone, he often was the one who kept drives alive. How many times did we see Jerry Rice catch a one or two yard td pass? SF used this play repeatedly even on first down. Nothing wrong with it, but each player has to be evaluated within the system that they played. Many of the comparisons that are made to degrade Art make no sense.

[redskin81]

Wow. I think he just about summed that up.

[CliffBattles]

I could hear the rebuttal to this being [in pouty tone], "Well, I guess so."

All the evidence is there....problem is.... Monk never sold himself.

Should be a positive, but it is a negative.

[Pedro]

Should have left the bit at the end out (the losing interest personal bit that has no relevance) but other than that pure pwnage.

Great read, thanks for posting.

[Roborob132]

Yeah I heard alot about MONKS PLAYOFF STATS.. Well, umm, DIDNT BARRY SANDERS have pretty horrible stats in the playoffs? HMMM.

[pjfootballer]

I can say that this is the first time I've read something that long on this board. I usually dismiss it because I don't have the time, but knowing it was Monk, made me read it.

They should blow this up real big and tape it to the front doors of the HOF.

[Jimbo]

Wow. I think he just about summed that up.

Just about? I read the whole thing and I couldn't think of one single point he missed.

I sure hope this guy has a vote or at least some influence.

[pjfootballer]

Only thing is, he said we lost 2 games in the 1991 season by 2 points. Incorrect. We lost 24-21 to Dallass and 24-22 to Philthy in the last game. 5 points. It was the 83 team that lost 2 games by 2 points, 31-30 to Dallass opening night (Led 23-3 at half) and Green Bay 48-47 when Mosley botched a 37 yard FG at the gun.

[Coltsfan in VA]

Art Monk's 1984 season was a dominant season no matter the measure you use. Here are some stats to show how good his season was.

Top 10 largest margin between the 1st and 2nd WR in receptions*:

1. Art Monk 1984- 32.5%

2. Marvin Harrison 2002- 27.68%

3. Dick Gordon 1970- 24.56%

4. Jerry Rice 1990-21.95%

5. Sterling Sharpe 1992- 16.13%

6. John Jefferson/Dwight Clark 1980- 15.49%

7. Art Monk 1985- 15.19%

8. Sterling Sharpe 1993- 14.29%

9. Harold Carmichael 1973- 13.56%

10. Dwight Clark 1981- 11.77%

* Does not include Strike-Shortened Seasons

Art Monk's 1984 season was very dominant considering that the Redskins only had 286 completions. Art Monk accounted for 37.06% of the Redskins completions (which ranked 2nd among the 55 players who have 100+ reception seasons). Here is the list (Percentage in the final column):

1. Steve Smith (26) 103 2005 CAR 269 38.29

2. Art Monk (27) 106 1984 WAS 286 37.06

3. Marvin Harrison (30) 143 2002 IND 392 36.48

4. Jimmy Smith (30) 116 1999 JAX 320 36.25

5. Rod Smith (31) 113 2001 DEN 312 36.22

6. Isaac Bruce (23) 119 1995 STL 366 35.42

7. Tim Brown (31) 104 1997 OAK 294 35.37

8. Jimmy Smith (32) 112 2001 JAX 321 34.89

9. Herman Moore (27) 106 1996 DET 304 34.87

10. Sterling Sharpe (28) 112 1993 GNB 322 34.78

Fewest team completions for a 100+ receiver:

1. Steve Smith (26) 103 2005 CAR 269

2. Art Monk (27) 106 1984 WAS 286

3. Tim Brown (31) 104 1997 OAK 294

4. LaDainian Tomlinson (24) 100 2003 SDG 297

5. Anquan Boldin (23) 101 2003 ARI 302

6. Herman Moore (27) 106 1996 DET 304

7. Troy Brown (30) 101 2001 NWE 306

8. Herman Moore (28) 104 1997 DET 309

9. Rod Smith (31) 113 2001 DEN 312

10. Marty Booker (25) 100 2001 CHI 315

100 reception seasons breakdowns in NFL History.

Total: 55

1920-1989: 1 (Art Monk 1984)

1990-Present: 54 (54 in 18 seasons, avg. of 3 per year)

Postseason:

People talk about Art Monk's lack of numbers/heroics in the postseason, but he was a better player in the postseason:

Regular season avg (16 game season):

67.1 receptions 908.6 yards 4.9 Touchdowns

Postseason Avg (16 game season):

73.6 receptions 1132.8 yards 15.4 YPC 7.5 Touchdowns

Clearly they are better.

Here is a comparison of Art Monk vs. John Stallworth and Lynn Swann:

Monk: 940 catches 12721 yards 68 TD's

Swann: 336 catches 5462 yards 51 TD's

Stallworth: 537 catches 8723 yards 63 TD's

He has more catches than both of them combined.

[Redskins4ever]

Don't you worry. Art Monk is destined for the Hall of Fame. He will get there.