Aghar Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I put this in the other thread about this but probably should put it here since this looks like the one that has the responses in it: This article is a piece of trash make crazy statements like this: While Hall of Famers like the Rooney family, the late Wellington Mara or future Hall of Famer Robert Kraft focused on building teams the proper way, Snyder has always cared more about which A-lister is sitting where in his box. The welfare of the league, small markets, salary cap manifestations. Forget it. He's not interested. Now, Mara did care for this league and made the decisions usually thinking of the league before the team. While I could say he did it since he had no choice because he was around when the team wouldn't survive without a league that wasn't on solid ground and nowadays the league is on solid footing. But I won't say that. What I will say is that the ONLY reason we are actually playing this year with a CBA is because the owners of the big market teams , INCLUDING DAN SNYDER , made the decision to put the small market teams' concerns, and the league as a whole, before their own priorities. Period. This guy should be fired for this article. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamshatterer Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 That article will be saved on my hard drive and I will throw that into his face when we do win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyGreene Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I'm glad we have a pimp for an owner. A pimp without the limp - Our man, Dan...#1 fan, and this simpleton can't put a crimp in his plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfannyc Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 As a Cowboys fan I'm a Redskin hater. As an NFL fan, he is right that the Redskins are one of the most important franchises in the league. (beyond the Cowboys of course! ) I think Synder is horrible for the Redskins and for the league. I'm not just saying that on the part of being a Cowboys fan. I had extremely negative feelings about Jerry Jones for the longest time. He finally straightened up. Hopefully Synder will too. I want the Redskins to do well, because it makes the Cowboys and the Redskins by far the best rivalry in the league. Even beyond the Chiefs/Broncos and Packers/Bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundy47 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 "Snyder employees, I believe, pose as fans and blast media members on various message boards. " That's a pretty bold accusation. I'm sure he has oh so much evidence to back up a claim like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 What do you suppose the number of times is that he's actually spoken to or met with Snyder. I'd put the over/under at zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiGdiCeBuDdHa Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 "Snyder employees, I believe, pose as fans and blast media members on various message boards. "That's a pretty bold accusation. I'm sure he has oh so much evidence to back up a claim like that. Isn't this site owned by the Redskins, so wouldn't the mods be employees of Snyder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfannyc Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Isn't this site owned by the Redskins, so wouldn't the mods be employees of Snyder? Many times on sites like this mods arn't paid at all. It's just fans doing their job for a site they love. As for this site, I don't know the status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyGreene Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 The man does what an owner should do and that is spend money - period. He is constantly attempting to improve his team - constantly! He is an innovator as well - prctically bringing the trade in vouge. Remember it was him and his assembled "yes" men that started going after restricted free-agents, when it was almost unheard of. It was Snyder who gave the go-ahead to the first major trade of top-tier NFL talent as well - Champ/Portis. He has admittedly made mistakes along the way, but what front office hasn't. He is the first to pay his assistant coaches to stay (or come). I don't care why players want to play here. Because of him, they want to play here. Point is - he does as much as he can - every year. Damn, I feel good about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxpck Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 As a Cowboys fan I'm a Redskin hater. As an NFL fan, he is right that the Redskins are one of the most important franchises in the league. (beyond the Cowboys of course! ) I think Synder is horrible for the Redskins and for the league. I'm not just saying that on the part of being a Cowboys fan. I had extremely negative feelings about Jerry Jones for the longest time. He finally straightened up. Hopefully Synder will too. I want the Redskins to do well, because it makes the Cowboys and the Redskins by far the best rivalry in the league. Even beyond the Chiefs/Broncos and Packers/Bears Seriously...as a cowboys fan...dont come on our board this week And somehow saying the Danny is wrong and Jerry Jones has changed is probably the stupidest statement I have ever ever ever heard. T.O. hiring, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frediemac Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 And he was a Redskin fan? Since when does a Redskin fan put his gloves, jacket and wool cap in a box? Good riddance. We don't want or need so called fans like that jerk. I 2nd that Kingfish :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frediemac Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 As a Cowboys fan I'm a Redskin hater. As an NFL fan, he is right that the Redskins are one of the most important franchises in the league. (beyond the Cowboys of course! ) I think Synder is horrible for the Redskins and for the league. I'm not just saying that on the part of being a Cowboys fan. I had extremely negative feelings about Jerry Jones for the longest time. He finally straightened up. Hopefully Synder will too.I want the Redskins to do well, because it makes the Cowboys and the Redskins by far the best rivalry in the league. Even beyond the Chiefs/Broncos and Packers/Bears Dfanny BITE ME! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsDave Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 definitely harsh, but he makes some good points...... Where? It looked like a personal jealousy piece to me and I am certianly on record as not being Snyder's biggest fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Many times on sites like this mods arn't paid at all. It's just fans doing their job for a site they love. As for this site, I don't know the status. I don't think he talking about guys like me. Mods don't 'pose' as anything other than guys who run the site. And I can tell you for a fact that every single member of the staff here were clearly fans before they were recruited to be moderators. And besides, I'd be willing to bet any decent team website is visited by team employees, who may or may not anonymously offer opinions without consulting the owner of the team. No, what I think he means is that Snyder specifically pays people to pretend to be fans and slam the media. I seriously doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 The stars make him feel important, they make him feel taller. Ouch! I gotta tell ya, I've never been a Snyder fan and while I agree with the underlying frustration, that was one nasty hit piece. I've savaged Snyder for years for his incompetence, but I assumed it was incompetence. Mike Freeman makes it sound like Snyder ruined this team purely out of greed and ego. I figured these really tough Snyder-bashing pieces were long gone now that good ol' Joe's back and firmly in charge. I guess Mike didn't get the memo. Snyder better hope the Skins make the playoffs this year, otherwise he's gonna see lots more of these articles. Personally, I just shook my head in shame when I saw little Tom Cruise trotting out onto the field. Seriously, couldn't Snyder buy a celebrity with a little less baggage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 This is the kind of article that was missing in the offseason. Now it's time to show what we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSource Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Another "he's so rich that I hate him article." No, money doesn't win championships in the NFL, that has become clear. As a fan of the skins I want to see them win on the field and I know our owner does as well. Fortunately for Snyder, he makes money regardless, and owners, writers, and most non-Redskins fans hate him for it. The funny thing to me was Jerry Jones was the guy they used to go after....now it's on the Snyder. Isn't Georgie the one they pick on from the Yankees and Mark Cuban the one they go after with the Mavs? See a pattern? The richer you are, the more you're hated....add in a pinch of youth and you're the anti-christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfannyc Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I don't think he talking about guys like me. Mods don't 'pose' as anything other than guys who run the site. And I can tell you for a fact that every single member of the staff here were clearly fans before they were recruited to be moderators.And besides, I'd be willing to bet any decent team website is visited by team employees, who may or may not anonymously offer opinions without consulting the owner of the team. No, what I think he means is that Snyder specifically pays people to pretend to be fans and slam the media. I seriously doubt that. I agree completely. I wasn't responding to the article itself rather than the post made in responce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 No, what I think he means is that Snyder specifically pays people to pretend to be fans and slam the media. I seriously doubt that. That's exactly what he's saying: "Snyder employees, I believe, pose as fans and blast media members on various message boards." That's a pretty whiny gripe. We all know, of course, that Skins employees do post here without identifying themselves (think of certain breaking news...), but I'm not sure I recall an instance where it was done to bash the media. Maybe they have. Seems childish and stupid and unproductive though -- not that I'd put that past a Snyder regime. Mike would have to be really stretching the "pose as fans" bit to include the ES mods though. They are fans, they're not posing as fans. Of course, I'm actually Vinny Cerrato and I never bash the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauss Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 He sounds like he lost more on the game than I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Quote : "During his tenure as owner Snyder is 54-59 with two playoff appearances. No NFL owner in history has ever sunk as much signing bonus money into a franchise and gotten so little from those investments as Snyder." "He will notice how the New England Patriots built a dynasty utilizing smart drafting, treating the salary cap with respect and making wise free agent selections based on real needs, not Q-rating" The numbers, they speak for themselves, and the team that got it allright (by the numbers). The Pats remind me the good old times with J.K. Cooke and Joe Gibbs. Wish we can challenge them and comeback to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashmowf Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I call that penis envy and wallet jealousy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfannyc Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I call that penis envy and wallet jealousy.... Nahh, it's just a deep love for your team. This happen when Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys and fired Tom Landry and traded away Herschel Walker. The sky was falling and the holocaust had begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I agree completely. I wasn't responding to the article itself rather than the post made in responce. Me too. You just happened to be the last person to talk about it. Didn't mean to imply you were accusing us of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 “While Hall of Famers like the Rooney family, the late Wellington Mara or future Hall of Famer Robert Kraft focused on building teams the proper way, Snyder has always cared more about which A-lister is sitting where in his box. The welfare of the league, small markets, salary cap manifestations. Forget it. He's not interested.” Well lets see…the Rooneys went 30 years between super bowl wins, the Giants haven’t won a SB since 1991 (skins won in ’92). While making the play-offs is nice, in the end, it doesn’t count for squat. Only titles matter. Oh, and the Bengals are a better Franchise? Ummm…a team full of criminals? The Skins have won more play-off games than they have the last 2 years. These writers cannot seem to let the one off-season go when he signed Jeff George, Deion, and Bruce Smith. How about the fact that he brought Santana Moss here and got rid of Lavernus Coles (GREAT move) how about the trade for Clinton Portis who set a franchise record for Rushing last year. How about bringing Marcus Washington to DC. He’s probably the most underrated LB in the game right now. How about letting Lavar (I just missed another Tackle) Arrington go AND getting money back in return. I agree, Snyder made some mistakes early on, but he has learned from them as well. This article just comes across as jealous ranting. What does Tom Cruise have to do with the Redskins? Nothing. No more than Six Flags has anything to do with the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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